The really sad thing is some how some of the bottom 10 populated servers haven’t been linked to anything while servers with double and triple their populations have been taken care of. Leaving those poor bastards to twist in the wing and wonder or pay to move when they might not have to.
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The bottom 10 servers should be connected to high pop servers imo (the real high pop ones, not the ones that are listed as “Full” or “High” on the realm selection page for unknown reasons when the servers are actually nowhere near full or high).
Maybe they are taking time to determine which true high pop servers they want to connect the lowest populated servers to?
The servers that are actually really screwed are the ones that are already clusters of 4+ realms that are already dead (despite the connections made back in 2014) getting connected to another dead clusters of 2 to 4 realms.
The raiding scene is still going to dead because most of the progression guilds from these servers have already moved onto better populated servers for greener pastures over the years.
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Look forward to seeing you, we are a 7 realm family now, that is pretty wild!
/hugs
Not fine in the least, what game have you been playing? And ED is a part of our connected realms anyway, I see them in the city all the time. All RP realms should be combined or just connected with a non RP realm so we can move into relevance.
There are two possibilities there. One is that the realm has fewer people interested in progression, so it has fewer on Raider IO or in progression guilds even though it has the population by number of people logged on. The other is that Blizzard’s population number accounts for number of accounts or characters on the realm even when they are not playing.
Either way, I don’t think counting high end population content is a good measure of actual realm population. Unfortunately there’s no good public measure of population at the moment.
The healthiest, most populated realms are the ones that have a clear realm identity due to never having been merged. Merging in a low population realm risks that health. Risking the health of a high population realm to save server costs on a low population realms is likely a bad idea.
If they ever get to the point where a realm has such a low population that the revenue from that population can’t support the costs of maintaining the server, even during the new expansion boom, and there are no reasonable realm connection targets other than high population realms, their best course of action would be to shut down the realm entirely and give all its characters free transfers to their choice of realm.
Emerald Dream is not presently connected to Proudmoore or any other realm you may have characters on. You are confusing realm connection and CRZ - cross realm zones.
Emerald Dream does get CRZ with other realms. In fact, all RP realms are CRZ together when the total population doesn’t justify separate shards, including Wyrmrest Accord and Moonguard, so you already have your wish.
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ED is connected to Maelstrom and that connected realm group, whatever you want to call it…I’m not confusing anything. Never alluded to anything with Proudmoore.
And what I’m saying is regarding guilds, economy, and things like that, not CRZ, which is a totally different issue.
I actually play on Maelstrom and they are not connected; you can’t, for example, trade between Maelstrom and Emerald Dream. You obviously don’t regularly play on Maelstrom or its connected realms if you don’t know that.
Maelstrom and its connected realms are fine as they are right now.
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How would a truly high populated realm’s “realm identity” or “health” even be affected with being connected with 1 or 2 of the bottom 10 populated servers? We’re talking about the lowest of low, most dead realms here.
Nobody cares about “saving server costs / costs of maintaining the server”. That’s on Blizzard to worry about.
The players on low pop servers are concerned about how dead their servers are and how hard it is to find good progression guilds / good AH prices & item availability etc.
Emerald dream is connected with nothing else and is in a totally different datacentre from Proudmoore.
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It’s an empirical observation: connected realms never grow to be a Sargeras or Illidan or even an Emerald Dream.
If I were to speculate, I’d suspect that the need to use hyphenated names has a chilling effect on realm culture.
“Chilling effect”?
Some hyperbole lol.
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Feel free to propose your own hypothesis.
Not sure why I see so many people in cities from ED then, I did some research and they aren’t connected, but maybe they show up first being another RP realm? Strange.
Sort of supports my opinion, and yea it’s my opinion, that the RP connected realms need more connections still.
I agree with you that connected realms will never grow to be a Sargeras or Illidan or Emerald Dream.
But then realms like Sargeras, Illidan and Emerald Dream were never in an unfortunate position to be dire enough to have other servers connected to them to begin with.
I’m not talking about connected servers “growing into” mega servers like Sargeras or Illidan here.
Blizzard has never connected any known high pop servers with other servers so how would any of us know what will happen when each of the bottom 10 low population servers were connected to your Sargeras and your Illidans and Area52’s and Stormrages and Tichondrius?
We don’t have past examples to go by.
Will the “realm identity” of these highest populated servers really going to be affected when they basically still dominate the population of this newly connected server if they ever did get connected?
I doubt it.
What did I describe worse than it is? The part you quoted said clearly there’s not a single full mythic guild, as in not 12\12, which you also said, and only 13 hc (as in full) and 12 normal guilds.
Ahhh, I see, must be cause I didn’t mention the partial guild progress, I saw there were some guilds with some mythic boss kills ofc.
So ok, it has 10 partial mythic guilds, but my point is that usually even new players realms have a few 12 mythic guilds, so a full realm without one is ofc suspicious.
And I had seen people complaining about alterac mountains being full before, that’s why I was intrigued, looks like you were one of them then.
Anyway I just checked progress cause I was baffled by such a small realm marked as full, as I’ve found that generally the in game population indicator was accurate.
Just so you know, although it’s true they never connected really big servers in the us, they’ve done so in the eu, and might happen to the us too later on this program cause they’re being very aggressive, as an example in 2013 or 2014 tarren mill, one of the biggest english eu realms got connected to dentarg, a small one, and nowadays tarren mill maintained roughly its population status, as in a strong english server but not quite like the top of the top.
I think more or less this would happen even if they connected the real top servers, they wouldn’t suddenly start declining just because they have a tiny server added.
You can clearly see emerald dream people in cities if you are on another roleplay realm, that’s just how it is with cross realm zone.
To confirm they’re not connected it’s sufficient to look at the realm status: if emerald dream has a different population mark than maelstrom, they’re not connected, if they have the same just log, search a zone, stormwind should be fine, on who, and see, if you don’t find any single person from emerald dream it’s not connected (and it isn’t ofc).
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Well, it needs to be.
On where? On your EU client?
It hasn’t been accurate at all at least since Legion.
You don’t even actually play on US servers.
Why you care this much, I don’t know.
I’d love to see a short YouTube series or Q&A on how WoW’s server infrastructure works. That would be pretty cool.