Really? No Flying in next patch?

[Voidarcane-whisperwind]

@Karazaa

Pathfinder will be coming in 10.2. Its implementation has not been finalized on PTR. More details will be coming soon. Unlocking pathfinder will allow you to use your non-dragonriding mounts in the Dragon Isles.

Awesome!

Do we have any timeline (if you can share it) on when Dragonriding in the old world will be available?

[Voidarcane-whisperwind]

@Baalzebarbie-azuresong

And Vladimir Ions war on flying continues.

Eh, Pathfinder could be as easy as it was in Shadowlands, and it wasn’t that bad this time around because we had Dragonriding.

I do hope come time 11.0 we have Dragonriding and Flying from the start.

[Baalzebarbie-azuresong]

@Shadybolt-thrall

@Sendryn-sentinels

Because it doesn’t affect you when someone goes 410% speed and you’re doing between 800% to 1200% speed.

That’s not what’s going to happen though, and taking even half a moment to think about it reveals why:
“Oh my gosh! Why should that loser on a dragon fly so much faster than me?!”

If you have two options and one is far superior than the other, that creates implicit elitism and classes of people - you can’t get people to change their way and you can’t balance the feeling of difference that creates
Does it matter in the short term? Nope
Long-term it absolutely murders people’s interests in games and events when these are the options

Do I think there should be more options? Sure
Do I believe it would be good for the game overall if “fly swimming” came back into the game? No, I honestly don’t - and I see no reason that it would actually be more beneficial for the game’s overall health

@Sendryn-sentinels

There’s also accessibility reasons for those who cannot do dragonriding.

Even in terms of this one complaint that is genuinely the only real good argument against it (yes, there are others - the problem is that there’s almost always universally a solution to those things meaning that they aren’t so much problems as much as ‘things to deal with’ but yes there are other critiques that should be taken into account)

I’m not a designer so I don’t have the solutions but … just to spitball ideas - why not expand on the flightpath system? Add a functioning whistle back into the game and add “custom” flightpaths where you have more “nodes” on the map where you can fly to, that’d be a way to add more accessibility options to the game whilst also benefitting everyone (since a crucial element of it to be more seriously proposed you’d have to make it useful for the most amount of players and both of these systems would be practical for a lot more than just people who require additional help)

That sounds like a karen argument to me!

[Cayna-hyjal]

Thanks so much for the update!

[Pixistyx-moon-guard]

I’d like to see how it will be implemented. Looking forward.

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Pixistyx-moon-guard

Then maybe I was wrong.

I don’t think you’re wrong. You’re just seeing it from a different stance. I’m just pointing out that it’s a minority viewpoint. It’s not wrong. It’s just not a good way to look at the gameplay overall for everyone.

But honestly, I don’t think we’ll see static flying until the last patch of the expansion at this point.

[Cayna-hyjal]

I don’t even care that there’s a Pathfinder… just happy for normal flying.

[Warzug-mankrik]

@Karazaa

More details will be coming soon. Unlocking pathfinder will allow you to use your non-dragonriding mounts in the Dragon Isles.

Well, it’s about time

“better late than never”

@Cayna-hyjal

I don’t even care that there’s a Pathfinder… just happy for normal flying

Same same

Legit don’t even care if there’s a grind, just being able to fly again is a sufficient carrot-on-a-stick

[Karazaa-1766 (Karazaa)]

Sorry, can’t provide details about that at this time.

[Boredumb-alexstrasza]

See OP?

Patience is a virtue

[Sarama-firetree]

@Karazaa

Pathfinder

Geez just let people have old flying without jumping through hoops if we’re gonna have to wait and you’re clearly ok with people being able to skip everything on DR mounts.

[Spyropurple-gallywix]

@Karazaa

Pathfinder will be coming in 10.2. Its implementation has not been finalized on PTR. More details will be coming soon. Unlocking pathfinder will allow you to use your non-dragonriding mounts in the Dragon Isles.

Hopefully not taking months to complete once it becomes a thing for DF

[Fairlight-emerald-dream]

that is the perfect gif

[Vhx-black-dragonflight]

Will PF grant druids their flightform in DF? Gotta at least give them that since you’re denying them a legendary.

[Pixistyx-moon-guard]

After thinking about it, I can see how it would be a non-issue and even a nice thing to be able to switch at will given you have all the glyphs. Maybe I’m dumb for not going for all the glyphs as soon as I started playing. No one had suggested this to me. I wanted to explore and find them myself while I went through the campaign, and for quite a few I did. So for dumdums like me who didn’t immediately look up a guide to find all glyphs, I thought the restriction was a good encouragement for me to explore.

[Karazaa-1766 (Karazaa)]

Druids will be able to use Flight Form upon unlocking Pathfinder.

[Pixistyx-moon-guard]

Is there any word on how soon players will be able to obtain this in the expansion?

[Karazaa-1766 (Karazaa)]

In addition to Pathfinder, additional accessibility improvements will be coming to dragonriding in 10.2 that are not yet on PTR.

[Sonyja-moon-guard]

Is there any intent to add dynamic flying to mounts that otherwise don’t “fit” that mode? Could we ever expect to surf on our red cloud discs, for instance?

[Greatbobbo-zuljin (Greatbobbo)]

Karazaa, the gift who keeps on giving.