I had canceled my accounts, but JJ was implemented. So, resubbed for a month. With that being said, just unsub and make sure they know rdf is the reason. When enough do it, we may get it.
Stop subbing for more than 3 months at a time. I do month to month, as i don’t trust them to do anything, right. They are not going to change anything, as long as you pay them. The devs in Rift once said that…look at Rift today…lol.
Oh, don’t go to retail…as you are still paying them. Defeats the purpose, as that is where they prefer all of us, anyway.
You may find other games you like better and some maybe even more blizz-like than blizz themselves.
Oh, but it isn’t just me; people have come forth and spoken up voicing their opinions as well.
I came back in August, I’m not exaggerating when I said that people have talked about it on over hundreds of threads in literally thousands of posts. There are some posts from 2010 and 2011 out there.
There are some testimonials on many websites, reddit and mmo-chamion (iirc) as well, which date back in 2010.
We come to the forums to discuss in good faith, that’s what I believe in, and that’s why I use this character to do so.
Others do use more than one character, but pro-RDF have done the same as well. There’s one particular case where they got caught and got temporarily banned from the forums.
But if you are using that argument to dismiss my points, I doubt a few people managed to post more than 6,000 posts on the subject. You do see the same people in these threads though, on both sides.
Since the lack of RDF has caused a negative impact on a lot of people, and considering that it is more likely that someone will talk about a negative experience rather than a positive one (e.g. someone will talk more about the time when they lost $100 dollars rather than when they made them), it is expected that you will see more pro-RDF than anti-RDF.
Not only is it a legitimate question, but it is the best question I’ve seen so far. I really would love to know the answer.
I often ask a similar question, how come I can make groups mostly by using the LFG chat channel and occasionally the LFG tool, when a lot of people can’t do so successfully?
Absolutely. I can almost guarantee that Pro-RDF players do the same thing. However, it’s because of this, and it happening on both sides, that discredits using the forums as any form of support.
I wouldn’t put it past people - although, it could be a hundred people on multiple characters, we just don’t know.
Which further invalidates the use of forums that support Anti-RDF claims since people will be more likely to speak up against something they don’t like, than people who enjoy it.
Next time you have good service somewhere, go tell the management.
I’ve seen generally about 50/50 on how they take it. When a manager says something like “so what’s the problem” it shows how few people give credit to a job well done.
I’ll complain when it’s deserved, but I also do my best to compliment when it’s earned.
The majority of players value efficiency more than social interactions in dungeons then. 5 man groups can bypass the lockouts by queuing with the tool after forming a group, so it’s not like they can’t benefit from the tool while still grouping up the same way as before.
If that’s your logic, nobody should be posting on the topic for starters, since no-RDF has been received as a negative experience; anti-RDF will speak up because bringing RDF back would be negative for us.
The vast majority of the RDF threads have been to talk about the negative experience that decision has created, so they all should be invalidated? Are you saying that the pro-RDF should be permitted to talk at length, but the anti-RDF shouldn’t? Be careful and don’t try to control the narrative here.
No, I’m saying that the number of threads on these forums in support of either direction should not be used to support either side’s claim of it being a positive or negative thing, simply because of how easy it is to write on these forums under multiple characters.
MM had a hand in overseeing some of the most influential games the industry has seen, but he has also been critical of himself when it comes to those games because he wants them to succeed and for players to enjoy them. I want to open with that because MM is taking more blame for his game than he should. It wasn’t just World of Warcraft that became less social, it was the online community as a whole. The social aspect of WOW was going to slowly deteriorate with the whole online gaming community, no matter what was added or removed. We have to attribute some of the lose of community to online gaming just becoming more mundane.
I think a more pertinent question to ask is why do you succeed in creating social interaction with LFG groups, but not in RDF groups? Are you a slow typer so you only have time to chat while riding a gryphon and not while clearing a dungeon? Can you not focus on a conversation while doing dungeon content?
I’m not against having the LFG tool. I used it many times to form and join groups when there were enough players at Wrath classic launch. My claim is that those groups didn’t have more social interaction than I have with groups put together by the RDF. If anything, players in classic seem less inclined to interact during dungeons than players on retail when using the RDF.
Please read the entire conversation before you jump in. The thread is specifically talking about server based RDF, meaning you get RDF but can only group with those already on your server, not xrealm. My response was in response to what the thread is actually ABOUT. Thanks for your support.
No I’m saying the general phenomena of people pre forming dungeon groups happened after RDF was added, despite what some people claim, for the same reasons as now when it offers benefits above pugging.
World tours would have happened regardless of RDF being in the game and would have died out the same as they did.
