RDF question

[Kynsalia-grobbulus]

@Settee-mankrik

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

Already touched on that

So, what’s wrong with me logging in and getting Thunderfury for creating a toon?

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

@Zaalg-ashkandi

And I’d like to be able to get Invincible’s Reigns without having to raid, but that’s not how it works.

Look, there’s how many pets and mounts in the game that don’t require RDF? So because a there’s 1 of each attached to the tool it’s a big deal? Come on.

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

@Hailmary-whitemane

My point is that there are many “only ways to earn something” in the game.

Which are all tied to the content itself, not the method that you entered the content.
My point is that if I go and do a heroic dungeon with 4 people and do not queue with RDF I should receive the same possible reward as those who do the exact same dungeon, with RDF.

I’d still be doing the dungeon unlike your example of Invincible not doing the raid.

At least read the thread first.

The proper analogy is if they introduced LFR and Thunderfury/Invincible was only available through LFR, not the regular raid.

[Settee-mankrik]

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

At least read the thread first

Naw.

That isn’t going to make your idea any better.

[Hailmary-whitemane]

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

The proper analogy is if they introduced LFR and Thunderfury/Invincible was only available through LFR, not the regular raid.

No its not, we’re talking about RDF exclusive rewards.
Not loot that is available within a dungeon or raid.

In this case, for RDF rewards, that it is the content.
The content is doing w/e RDF heroics through the RDF system for the reward.
That is the content tied to the reward.

[Hailmary-whitemane]

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

but lots of people don’t want RDF at all.

Could be…but imo they we’re all full of hot air.
Toxic people gonna toxic.
Like, where’s all the outrage over the announcement from the anti-RDF folk?
Werent they supposed to quit the game, move to Canada or some crap?

They were just hatin’.

[Misanthra-atiesh]

The reward for not taking true random RDF would be not getting dungeons not liked.

The reward to RDF true random is to bait taking that say…occulus.

Not many like it here. True rng RDF will see this pop and go sigh…lets do this. And thus, their reward.

We all have places we hate. RDF will send you there. Now with rewards for not deserting the pull lol.

Those who don’t use RDF true random will get an occulus free night. If that was desired, that is your reward.

I did this all through SL in its lFD. Calling up for bastion, I only qeue’d its 2 dungeons.

NO lfd reward. But my actual reward was not seeing TS or ToP at all. I did not like these places. Not seeing them was truly a reward.

[Ziryus-pagle]

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

@Euphorazine-pagle

The reward isnt for doing the content, its for doing the content with random people.

Then no reward should have been possible if you make a full 5 man and que RDF. Yet they were. Perky Pug was the only reward tied to it specifically being other players. All of the other rewards I mentioned, Blue Drake, bonus PvE points etc, could all be obtained with a full 5 man that isn’t actually contributing to the RDF player pool.

The perky pug is a funny cosmetic reward, like it’s literally in the name that it’s for pugging, I’m not seeing the issue.

[Deunan-atiesh]

“I want to get the rewards without using the thing the rewards come from”

sure thing, and I want the rusted proto-drake but I don’t expect to just do normal 10m Ulduar and get it without doing the achievement.

Same thing.

[Zaalg-ashkandi]

People are complaining about a cosmetic pet.

Talk about a ridiculous stretch.

[Kynsalia-grobbulus]

@Ziryus-pagle

The perky pug is a funny cosmetic reward, like it’s literally in the name that it’s for pugging, I’m not seeing the issue.

@Zaalg-ashkandi

People are complaining about a cosmetic pet.

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

@Euphorazine-pagle

The perky pug

And honestly it’s less about the Perky Pug as that was added specifically for the reasons you mentioned. I’m more talking about other rewads, the mount, points, etc

Read posts.

@Deunan-atiesh

sure thing, and I want the rusted proto-drake but I don’t expect to just do normal 10m Ulduar and get it without doing the achievement.

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

@Zaalg-ashkandi

And I’d like to be able to get Invincible’s Reigns without having to raid, but that’s not how it works.

Look, there’s how many pets and mounts in the game that don’t require RDF? So because a there’s 1 of each attached to the tool it’s a big deal? Come on.

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

@Hailmary-whitemane

My point is that there are many “only ways to earn something” in the game.

Which are all tied to the content itself, not the method that you entered the content.
My point is that if I go and do a heroic dungeon with 4 people and do not queue with RDF I should receive the same possible reward as those who do the exact same dungeon, with RDF.

I’d still be doing the dungeon unlike your example of Invincible not doing the raid.

Literally the exact same argument. You’ve added nothing.

[Ziryus-pagle]

Except there simply aren’t any major or even minorly significant rewards from RDF.

[Kynsalia-grobbulus]

What is and isn’t majorly or minorly significant is entirely subjective.

[Ziryus-pagle]

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

What is and isn’t ma jorly or minorly significant is entirely subjective.

Not really when it can be compared to other equivalent rewards.

[Misanthra-atiesh]

Any reward is a problem to some.

“I don’t want to run it”. The mindset they can have.

Okay…don’t run it. Simple solutions to simple issues. How this game (and most of MMO’s really) work…carrots on sticks. Want the carrot follow the stick.

I’d have empathy but I am pvp focused. Some pve carrots on sticks I follow. Others…I say I don’t really want that carrot and I don’t follow it.

I have pve needed for pvp kind of a bad idea. BUt…I do it when its needed and jsut move on after.

[Ziryus-pagle]

Sure but in a pve game it’s expected you’ll pve sometimes.

I’m waiting for someone to explain what massive rewards are only available from pugging RDF.

[Misanthra-atiesh]

A pet. That lets be honest many won’t run, if run many would not care to notice it…and gives no real benefit.

Wow pokemon comes later. Mop, Right? There pets matter, imo.

They can be fun diversions for XP gainers (pet battles can get nice xp to spice up leveling), you can make some gold too as at level cap there are weeklies and such for paying events.

Or the pets are much cooler, imo. I will admit to liking my demon kitty pet in retail.

[Zaalg-ashkandi]

@Ziryus-pagle

Except there simply aren’t any major or even minorly significant rewards from RDF.

They’re really reaching to find any complaint about rdf. Oh no, you have to do a random dungeon once a day for a few weeks for a vanity pet.

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[Kynsalia-grobbulus]

@Zaalg-ashkandi

a vanity pet.

You’re really reaching to ignore every reply I’ve made saying forget the Perky Pug, it’s about the mount and other rewards.

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

And like I said in a previous post of mine. I want RDF and will use it

You’re also trying to make it out that I don’t want RDF.

[Zaalg-ashkandi]

How come I have to do AV for the stormpike battle charger?

No fair!!!

[Misanthra-atiesh]

@Zaalg-ashkandi

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.

ITs not even a future imba issue. this pet isn’t on any top 10 pet list for pet battles.

For those who left after wrath…pet battles to come has had some balance issues. Some pets are must haves for “iwin” reasons, others are nice to haves since good fillers for the pet rotation.

And others, like perky pug…are about as useful as the balloon pet for a quest in Org/SW in time. That is to say…completely useless.

[Kynsalia-grobbulus]

@Zaalg-ashkandi

How come I have to do AV for the stormpike battle charger?

No fair!!!

This would be relevant if you could only get the Stormpike Battle Charger by getting AV by queuing Random BGs.

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

@Zaalg-ashkandi

And I’d like to be able to get Invincible’s Reigns without having to raid, but that’s not how it works.

Look, there’s how many pets and mounts in the game that don’t require RDF? So because a there’s 1 of each attached to the tool it’s a big deal? Come on.

@Kynsalia-grobbulus

@Hailmary-whitemane

My point is that there are many “only ways to earn something” in the game.

Which are all tied to the content itself, not the method that you entered the content.
My point is that if I go and do a heroic dungeon with 4 people and do not queue with RDF I should receive the same possible reward as those who do the exact same dungeon, with RDF.

I’d still be doing the dungeon unlike your example of Invincible not doing the raid.

But again you ignored this. Again.