If you really want to play this game, your to stupid to look up basic information on your own and need your hand held every step of the way. Or is it just laziness that causes that behavior for you?
You don’t seem to understand that RDF adds people to the dungeon pool. A TON of people. That is the power of the convenience and accessibility. Participation will skyrocket. It also ignores any imbalances like low server pop, or role composition. Everything gets evened out and smoothed out. There will be far more tanks and healers because of RDF. If you don’t think so, you didn’t play back when it was added because that’s precisely what happened.
Furthermore, as has been said many times (but trolls continue to ignore), you can still manually form every single dungeon group. So it’s literally impossible for it to take any longer to form a group with RDF in the game. You can still form it just like you do right now. What it does do is gives players another option. An option they might need for any number of various reasons.
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This line makes no sense.
Because at the end of the day both arguments are opinionated the only thing that’s not opinion based is the fact that the system itself has people to the pool of doing dungeons.
They can’t cope with that
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It does to him, lol
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Look, I’ve been watching this debate from the sidelines while unsubbed. And I have to tell you strictly as an observer, that it’s completely and utterly HYSTERICAL how clueless and desperate the anti-rdf posters are. They just throw random darts at a board hoping something will stick. No logic, no consistency, no common sense in anything they say. It’s even more evident when you’re just watching the conversation and not participating.
If any unbiased observer was reading these threads it’s incredibly obvious that RDF should be in the game. The arguments against it are strawman, illogical ridiculous nonsense motivated by elitist gatekeepers…or just trolling.
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Do you intentionally ignore context so you can fire off some lame retort or are you just not bright enough to do anything else?
A poster said you cant run dungeons on Westfall horde. In capslock and everything. Not one. It was impossible (lets hope you’re above a 3rd grade reading level so you know what impossible means) to do a single dungeon there.
A population of 160 people were running four dungeons and 10 man raid. Is that what impossible to do a dungeon means?
Check out the big brain here. If you put thousands upon thousands of people together more groups are run than if it was just 500.
Speaking of boasting, do you wanna brag about how you’ve been making nothing posts like this since Wraths announcement in late TBC and havent moved the needle towards RDF by so much as a hairs breadth because thats a pretty impressive accomplishment to me- all that effort, all those posts and nothing to show for it.
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Considering some of the forum sock puppets we’ve been arguing with, likely just trolling.
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Imagine boasting that two dungeon groups means RDF isn’t necessary. How does anyone take this seriously? 
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It makes perfect sence. You are unable to look for the answer yourself. You had to have it handed to you.
So that was from you not knowing how to look for basic information, or out of sheer laziness. So which is it?
Yup
They can state their opinions all they want at the end of the day the only thing that is 100% fact is RDF increases dungeon participation and it will add new players to the pool who otherwise wouldn’t be leveling.
That’s literally the whole debate and they can’t say anything about it.
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I have nearly every one of those folks on ignore anymore. I got tired of the circular logic, manipulated information, and made up fantasies that they use.
Simple facts:
- RDF will significantly increase the people who are running leveling dungeons.
- RDF will allow smaller servers to be able to do said dungeons when the population isn’t there to do so.
- RDF enhances the ability for everyone to participate in content.
- RDF is the ONLY system that was in the patch we are currently playing that isn’t in the game right now.
- PVPers have this option, PVEers do not. That alone is a bias imbalance on the Devs part.
- Anti-RDF arguments boil down to gatekeeping and forcing players into the world to get ganked on PVP servers.
I can keep going, but almost every terrible change Blizzard has made since Cata was to make these world PVP weirdos happy. The biggest one was killing flying in WoD, which was my last straw and when I canceled my account.
It’d be a lot more fun to queue up to play with my wife and daughter on their low level toons with my similar level one than log onto my 80 to run them through a dungeon because there aren’t any leveling groups available.
Anti-RDF is anti-fun. Because most anti-RDF folks enjoy others misery.
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during Joyous Journeys while leveling two toons in NR i’ve done not a single dungeon. and i have cleared 3 and half zones and had all the dungeon quests and abandoned them because they are just not worth the time or patience to do them at this point if at all.
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not entirely true, the questing features, map features, disenchanting on greed need loot window. there are a few other minor systems but nothing dramatically huge.
There is no preexisting cross realm dungeon pool before RDF to add too. You know that right? Its created when it you when you make the cross realm dungeon pool and it will be a lot of people because theyre coming off 12 servers.
So everyone had instant queues? Are you joking? That’s not what happened. DPS had a much higher queue. Then what happened is dps queues got so bad over time, they had to pay tanks more than everyone else to do RDF.
You’d think you wouldve known that. I guess not.
Honestly, I think a lot of those were QOL features that have addons right now. Blizzard has always been slow on stuff like that if something already existed.
RDF doesn’t have a work around due to the cross server functionality.
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Still don’t seem to understand this people will now level once again who wouldn’t level otherwise if the system was put in.
This is what we mean by adding to the pool.
Frankly this should not have to be explained to you 10 times
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Please supply your Blizzard data points that shows your statements are indeed “100% facts”?
oh absolutely there are addons that do similar functionality to what addons do. there are some aspects i like about the addons like i think its mapster? being able to move it around and position it on my ui where i want it. or resize the map its self. questie i have some fondness for. there a lot of features with in questie that make questing less of a hateful experience. but, it doesn’t replace the features that were there. like being able to open the map and see your quests as well as the map is kind of nice niche, but nice. selecting the quests by their number is again niche but still niche. its just small changes of these features that are nice.
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Rdf NO in game- ME NO LEVEL
Rdf IN game- ME LEVEL
that was simple.
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