"RDF is NEVER coming out for WOTLK Classic" - Blizzard 2022

Thankfully they also had a minuscule budget thus never had the resources to implement the server mechanisms.

Pro-RDF are dismissive when a fact or testimony doesn’t follow their narrative. As I said, you are entitled to label things the way you want, I know my experience and I don’t care what you think of it, but that’ll just keep you in a perpetual state of denial.

By witnessing the logical process most pro-RDF follow, I now understand why there are flat-earthers: it doesn’t follow my narrative, I’ll put a label on it and dismiss it.

Keep the good work up. :+1:

I’m pro-RDF, celestial bodies are round, Covid is real and can kill you, the moon landing actually happened, and you lie a lot.

RDF is an amazing tool that provides an essential function in the leveling and gearing experience.

It allows players, if cross-realm, the opportunity to create connections outside of their small box; this directly supports the social networking experience.

It allows players more access to content when server population changes.

It provides players with the opportunity to engage with content easily 24x7x365.

RDF does not, nor has it ever, stopped you from forming groups. The notion that you had to quit playing WoW because RDF was a tool you don’t need to use is laughable and you should be mocked for saying such nonsense.

Dungeons are a temporary form of gameplay. Dungeons are used primarily to acquire baseline gear to enter raids. Dungeons are not, nor have they ever been during Wrath, end game content. I don’t believe for a second that you do world tours every single day. I would believe that you do two per day for the daily, maybe a few more maybe. RDF has zero impact on your being able to do those. Without RDF cross-realm it severely limits players who’s schedules are 2am-7am. Selfish people like you don’t care about those players.

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We get it, zoomers are lazy and need the work done for them.

It also forces me to group with skill-less jajas or face a 30 minute debuff.

People who say nonsense like this are the most fail players in the game.

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[quote=“Taleea-illidan, post:250, topic:1342870”]
the most fail players in the game.
[/quote]That distinction belongs to the jajas of Ragnaros realm.

Well, this says more about you than about me. All of the things you said are one-sided and doesn’t explore, explain or elaborate the downsides of the system. Like I’ve mentioned, if you are an objective-oriented person, you won’t understand how things are for a people-oriented person, or social, and we can’t have a conversation with you because you’ll dismiss anything that doesn’t suit your narrative.

For example, you lie a lot, you can’t present any factual evidence for that, but if you are going to play the card, what makes me believe that what you say are not lies?

RDF doesn’t provide it, it facilitates something that was already there. And it isn’t essential, because you can still do those things without it. So… your premise is flawed.

It provides the opportunity, but removes the incentive. So it doesn’t directly support the social networking experience. It’s like saying that taking the subway will increase your social circle by default. So… your premise is flawed.

At the expense of distributing the lack of tanks and healers evenly across all the servers, affecting the waiting queue times. You benefit small populated servers, but affect bigger ones. So… CTRL+C; CTRL+V your premise is flawed.

That doesn’t guarantee short waiting queue times, so I don’t know about the easily part, I would say conveniently. This one isn’t flawed, but you didn’t explore the downsides. So… one-sided.

Neither has the lack of RDF, people decide not to form groups the old way, not because the lack of a system, but because the lack of intention and willingness. People keep presenting testimonials that dungeons are taking place. If you decide to call those liars… well… then now we are going in circles, aren’t we?

This is an issue in low populated servers, I must admit. Besides, by reducing the pool of players to choose from at a local level that don’t use RDF, you also reduce the probability of completing the task successfully; in doing so, you corner anti-RDF to end up using the system, because there’s also The Path of Least Resistance Effect. Unless you dismiss psychology as well, your premise is flawed.

Yes, let’s laugh at people that stop playing WoW for any reason that you don’t deem acceptable. Flawed.

Just so people know, I came back because they’d said no RDF would be in this run.

These are not the only reasons as to why people do dungeons, so… flawed.

I spent most of my time leveling alts, so your guesses have nothing to do with the argument at hand. Flawed.

It has an impact on how and why I do dungeons. Next?

It depends on the realm, there are players from OCE and Europe playing on my server, so not really.

I’m not the one laughing at others and suggesting others should be mocked. I’m not the only labeling. I support the developers’ decision to remove RDF because I care about the social aspect of the game; that’s the opposite of being selfish.

Pay attention to what you are attempting to do here: you make assumptions about other people and their reasons to play the game and consider them as valid and true without any rationale whatsoever. You take only the points that follow your narrative and dismiss the negative aspects. You use uncalled-for labels and categorize people without exploring any other possible reason as to why people do things or play the game. And the list goes on.

Why would anyone take you seriously? You shoot down people’s arguments without logical counter-arguments. The problem with that is that anything can be or become anything and chaos might ensue. Like I said before, we can’t have a conversation with you.

This. Everything this guys said. Read it and life is your oyster. Just reach in and grab that pearl.

It won’t work if we continue to push for “Quality of life” at the expense of the game’s social nature. RDF kills socialization. That’s pretty much the crux of the matter

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C’mon until when you people gonna parrot this nonsense, First the removal of RDF has nothing to do with any social aspect of the game, they made it clear on their recent interviews that the real problem is players gearing to fast. Second you need to be realistic here, the game is decades old, you can not and will not force people to socialize, especially if they feel they are losing something in the process, in this case RDF.

If Blizz really wanted to improve the social aspect of the game, instead of taking things away, they should have create to tools for people to socialize, take FF14 as an example, they have almost everything on RDF, and yet it is one of the mmos with the best social experience and why is that, because they have the tools to do so.

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I’ll never forget the day. I was questing in Storm Peaks on a Tuesday when the game went down for maintenance. When the game came back online, Dungeon Finder as we know it today was launched. And I swear the game was never the same again. There was an immediate decline in the quality of dungeon runs (does anyone remember when Blizzard had to implement Luck of the Draw because it got so bad?), and the quality of players themselves went way down because there was no punishment for being toxic.

The game was never the same after DF was implemented, and I’d argue it changed for the worse. It can stay out as far as I’m concerned. I’m on a Medium pop server leveling a Mage and I’ve had zero issues getting a group in a reasonable time even in the dead of night.

Blizz said we wouldn’t get classic either. Here we are. They also said Fel Drake would be card only. Here we are with a twitch drop. Blizz says things all the time doesn’t mean it’s guaranteed.

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i hope they never comes out with it. community is pretty awesome actually. and here latetly even the GDKP crowd is small as hell.

Links please. Keep in mind, the same was said about bringing classic back to begin with.

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Just run with your friends and guild mates. RDF dosen’t stop you from doing that…

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So, you could have just run with your friends and guild mates, no one is forced to use rdf. And, if you do you knew what you were getting into, after the 1st couple of times.

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Why are you guys posting in a Lemonfont 2 month old dead thread?

There is recent activity, since last login?Making new threads is spamming (if some people don’t like the subject matter)?

Add in TOS-friendly botting and tell people just farm if you don’t like it… maybe there’s more than just if a system is optional or not. Like how RDF kills dungeon socialization