99% of anti RDFers are extreme hoarders who sit around in underwear their moms bought them in 1988. Their lifetime achievements include building up a resistance to Bacillus by eating expired bacon, almost beating the world record for the longest toenails, and making friends through LFG.
Well then the game will be dead till it’s added. That simple.
RDF will only bring in the majority of Wrath enthusiast.
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That’s where the flaw lies with the system.
How are they going to give harder heroics, while keeping players from complaining about how easy things are.
If a group is running with say full t7, and they got that just by running heroics over and over, now t8 is dropping from heroic+, if they increase the difficulty to accommodate full t7, what about players just stepping in to H+? The gap would be even higher from T9 to people starting.
So what do they do, just allow the last tier to drop regardless and keep H+ the same difficulty across the expansion or do they continuously tweak the difficulty where they don’t have H+, H+1,2 etc, they run the problem of excluding players that come late and just want to do H+ and not raid.
I wasn’t discussing difficulty. I was discussing accessibility. Regardless of whether they’re hard or not, they will at least continue to be relevant.
For all I know, there could be Heroic +1, +2, etc like mythic+. I have no idea. It’s still more content. RDF for heroics burns through content even faster, and encourages raid logging.
None of which is relevent to the post you are quoting or repsonding to.
The quote and post in question was only stating that someone did ask for harder heroics as well as someone did ask for mythic plus style heroics. So the op claiming no one asked for that is outright wrong. This is what the post you are responding to is doing, correcting that statement.
Who there for means nothing vs the post your responding to, why they exist also means nothing. You wanting them or not means nothing. Only the fact someone did ask for them matters.
So heroic + serves no purpose to basically anyone. Great we got that cleared up.
So if Heroic + doesnt serve a purpose then why not just bring in RDF to keep heroics relevant? People are going around acting like heroics are going to be done like they are throughout the entirety of the expansion, they will be done in probably another month.
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Never said it had value or not. So no its not cleared up at all that wasn’t even discussed. Wasn’t within the subject of my posts do read.
You are the one that brought that up trying to counter my post that had nothing at all to do with that. As such I did not address it and even mentioned its irrelevant to my posts, which you are responding to. You are the one trying to make my post more than it is. Im not discussing the topic of if m+ or heroic+ should be there or not that is NOT nor ever was the subject of my posts.
You really need to understand what is being said before you respond to a post.
My posts have from the start been telling the op, people did ask for heroic plus. His claim was no one did. This is outright false. You are the one here trying to make more of that than what was said. While by extension, you questioning that post, is you saying you think no one asked for heroic+ which is outright false.
If you want to debate if heroic plus should be there or not you should be responding to someone arguing that not someone correcting the ops false statement. It only makes you look like a fool when you are unable to understand what is being said and trying to agrue with someone not agrueing with you.
are you OUT OF YOUR MIND?
back to retail you madman.
And im saying they didnt ask for heroic+ they asked for harder dungeon difficulty period because they are easy.
So what exactly is heroic+ for when people wanted harder heroics NOW. Which i already said. Its all a waste of time. People arent getting what they asked for and a system is being created for what?
OK here’s the thing right at the end of the day heroic plus is meant to be a catch up mechanism Right it’s for people to gear up Is to get into naxx 25.
Are they going to be harder than the heroics are now yes but it’s not going to be like mythic plus On top of that so many people have said Just put a timer on it just don’t let it affect rewards some people may have fun speed running it.
I would probably say the difficulty would probably sum will be Probably about twice as hard as heroics are now which is fine Look at the end of the day if you’re really looking for difficulty classic isn’t the place to find it.
You’re gonna find that in retail with mythic plus and those rates those are the rates where you’re going to wipe a 100 times plus Like it or not that’s the truth Now am I saying that oldar will not be challenging no but it’s not be challenging no but I’m saying it’s not going to be anything Is nearly as hard as mythic jailer.
Which is completely fine The game doesn’t need to be tailored to the top 20% It needs to be tailored for the majority of the player base that’s how I feel.
I’m no RDF fan, but that’s a pretty silly statement.
They added retail’s gatekeeping Mythic+ finder to Classic. It was only a matter of time until they announced they were putting Mythic+ into WOTLK as well.
Retail players are destroying Classic-WOTLK with all these Retail Features. We really just need RDF as was originally intended and announced as a feature for the upcoming expansion at the blizzcon for the original WOTLK back in the day.
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yo we dont use that lfg btw
if u think that lfg is exclusive to retail… oh boy
True, there’s no gold selling advertisements or “Ragnaros = No Invite” posts. But it’s closer to retails than the intended RDF.
No, actually the retail one is 100% different. We can see ilvl, realm, and more importantly, raiderio / mythic + score on our LFG. We use raiderio as like a subsection of LFG. They’re not even comparable.
Legit the only thing on wotlk is the class the character is.
Honestly I get what you’re saying and you’re not wrong but it’s more that Retail uses Manual for 5 man end game content, and that philosophy was brought over to WOTLK-Classic, instead of the intended automated RDF.
What do you think wotlk used before RDF came out.
What do you think wotlk used after RDF came out, almost exclusively?
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Dude you’re not answering my question. What did we use in wotlk until rdf came out. This isn’t exclusive to retail LMAO
I’ve seen people blaming RDF and LFG both on retail. It’s a true trip, yall are wild. It’s just not even comparable.
Apparently, they ripped both RDF and LFG from retail, that’s wild. Retail never wins huh even tho their LFG system is perfect and RDF is only used for leveling
The philosophy of manual grouping for end game 5 man content is exclusive to retail. You can’t even use RDF in retail for end game 5 man content, it’s only done via manual finding.
Blizzard intended for RDF to come out with launch, it was an advertised feature at that year’s blizzcon, but it was delayed for technical reasons. The second it came out it was used almost exclusively, the wait ended up being worth it, and it was such a success that more players subscribed during a content drought.
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