I mean, to be fair the classic mage guy doesn’t have more experience, as far as I can see he’s capped out at 1600 in RBGS and around 1800 in arena, not even that in 3s. The guy you are arguing with is a multi-hero player who literally got hero last season, that’s pretty relevant experience when talking about RBGs right now, don’t you think?
Isnt this by definition an MMR cap?
Reducing inflation to not allow players to push high.
If you got the most perfect comp you want with people from LFG and put yourselves against all non-meta classes but the players were Hero/Rank1, do you think you’re going to win?
You can’t be stopped from earning MMR and there’s no number that you can go past.
You can be limited but there isn’t a capped number of any sort.
You could have 100% win rate and have your personal MMR keep rising to X number.
Perhaps he meant limited. However, there’s no cap like a conquest cap for a example where you literally can’t earn past a specific and set amount.
Well if you have to play hundreds of games to earn 10’s of CR i would call that a cap since its not reasonable for a person to willing to play that much.
Its not a hard cap, but a soft cap one where it becomes so tedious to continue pushing rating that you stop
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Interesting take. So do you also agree that comps do not matter?
I think there are other things that are gonna matter way more than comp at lower rating, if that’s what you mean. Comp is gonna matter a lot when everyone is playing at a high level, but IMO it’s just like 3s. You can play off-meta and still get lower rating rewards up to Duelist, sometimes even up to glad or further depending on skill. Comp becomes much more important at r1 levels where skill is more or less even and differences between classes/specs and their synergy matters more.
I don’t see how it’d be different in RBGs. The skill level of the team regardless of classes is going to influence rating gain to a certain point more than comp and you’d almost always be better off getting experience and just playing instead of trying to only play with perfect comps.
Sure. On an even playing field comp matters, with large skill gaps it doesn’t matter. As doors said earlier, you bring the player, not the class. But when you’re playing at low CR you can’t always bring the player. I complained about yolos, which is what started this whole thing. I can control my skill level, but not the other 9 on the team. We all have little to no CR to verify who is worth their salt and who isn’t. What I can control is my comp.
As for doragod. I know they’re high ranked. But you don’t get to just come to the forums, spout out some nonsense, hold your rating over everyone and proclaim you’re correct just because you have a higher rating. It doesn’t matter if you’re the highest rated player in the world, there still needs to be some accountability when you’re wrong. You don’t get to just throw a hissy fit and rate shame.
If you type < hidden text > with no spaces then you don’t need to type 10char.
But is it relevant experience for talking about what it is like playing with YOLOs and LFGs with no exp requirements? Because that is what was being discussed and I doubt Dora has much experience doing that in the last x number of years.
As I said, the last rated BG I did I sat farm as an evoker. Are evokers better in team fights or sitting bases?
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Dunno the purpose of quoting that at me, I didn’t say you were 100% wrong. In fact, I didn’t mention your arguments at all, I just pointed out that no, you aren’t more experienced than the other poster.
This isn’t a claim that I ever made.
I didn’t say I was, but appeal to authority is also a logical fallacy. And, I have probably have more experience playing with players that you don’t know and that you can’t depend on than Dora does.
You can read what I quoted in my first post, you definitely insinuated that Dora was avoiding responding directly to him because of some experience gap.
I didn’t say you did. You might have noticed neither of my first two posts were responses to you or anything you said. You can actually just read what I quoted and see what I was responding to.
I’d say they avoided responding because I was right.
cuz prolly only 1500 peeps playin RBGs.
Let that change to solo que and those numbers will change
We’re talking about two extremes here.
Dora has a lot of experience with high rated pvp whereas you’ve barely played the game at all.
I think they should make rewards/ranks percentage based. It will automatically solve low participation problem. If top 1% is at 1700cr, then so be it. If gladiator is at 1500cr then so be it. The number is relative anyway. There’s no artificial inflation in chess ranking I believe so why have it here.
I guess it makes people feel good though that the rating grows, and 1500 cr doesn’t sound as impressive historically. But technically speaking, it’s the position on the ladder that should matter, not the absolute value of the rating.