I wonder what the statistics are for people at various ratings? 120 matches in twos and I haven’t made it to 1200. When I do skirmishes with the ret I have done rateds with we seem to win at almost a 5 to 1 ratio… so are we still above avg or below as in only those of us bads do skirmishes?? How many players are above 1400… 1600 etc. It would also be interesting to see the ratio of classes at various levels.
Check out arenamate.net. Should have all the info you need.
120 matches in 2s? you should be 2500 at-least. - average mentality of the arena forum boomer.
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That is a common perception but it doesn’t seem to me to be accurate. I am in a pvp guild and it doesn’t seem like alot have made it to 1400. I haven’t been able to find solid information on the topic. Almost 5 million people are subscribed how many are above 1400… 1600… etc
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my point exactly.
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I see stats for those above 2200 but not for the other ratings. I see 312 hunters above 2200 but how many above 1400? 1600?
1200 is starting point, like at 0cr you’re quing into ~1200 teams. i think 1350 is avg based on lfg listings, inspecting randoms, and forum posts.
just anecdotal evidence I don’t have a list to look at or anything
They don’t list below 1800 because that data is pretty much irrelevant. Like below 1600 people generally aren’t using the fundemental mechanics of their class or the game, so it’s not worthwhile to categorize them.
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While i agree with your sentiment, that doesn’t mean the data is irrelevant tbh.
The OP is curious how many players are actually playing arena overall, and from that what subset is currently slumming sub-1400.
There was a time that you could extrapolate from r1 the total number of qualified arena toons, but I don’t think that’s the case anymore. I think now r1 is just a flat-out CR, isn’t it? 2700?
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1300-1400 seems average for regular players that don’t really know the ins and outs of every class, don’t have all their abilities keybound etc. If you’re talking about people that exclusively PvP and have decent game knowledge that’s pretty low.
R1 is still percentage based, everything else got changed to CR.
I had a look at current cutoffs and it shows 180ish horde in rank 1 range currently which would mean 180k total horde on the latter currently, that seems extremely high.
I’m not sure if the cutoffs are wrong currently or PvP is popping because of how good it is to gear with.
I assumed OP was looking for this info to garner if his class/comp was viable, in which case sub 1800 is worthless data to look at.
I see just over 10 thousand above 2200 between Europe and the US. Their are almost 5 million subscribers so the lower numbers have more relevance to most of the player base. I don’t actually see stats for above 1800? Where do you see that?
No the lower numbers are totally worthless in the sense of determining meta/viability.
It’s only reasonable to estimate a specs viability by taking data from people who are using that spec to it’s full potential, which they attempt to do by only using data from 2200+
Like I could hop on ret paladin and not keybind anything and stay 1300 forever but that shouldn’t interfere with their data collection because I’m not even playing the game.
Oh and actually I was thinking of wowgraphs which has a seperate category for 1800+ but they stopped updating the site in SL
That would have been relevant point but actually I am just looking at perception issues. One of the most popular vloggers on youtube recently said that the track to 2200 is merely a matter of putting the effort in and implied it is less difficult then heroic raiding. In contrast it looks to me like less then half are making it to 1400 and those 10 thousand above 2200 are a fraction of 1% of the player base.
It should be noted that there are currently tons of pve’ers in the arena scene this expac, as its the most reliable way to get a high ilvl weapon. This skews what is generally the feeling at 1200-1400.
There are tons of super geared pve-ers in that bracket, that although terrible, have massive gear advantages over a fresh-ish pvp toon. Then there are the duelist/glads, sitting on their 3s rank and selling boosts in that level you’re at.
So you go into 2s at like… 190, and all you see are 220 M raiders, and a ton of others being boosted by glads etc… its a really funky bracket right now.
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Yes, that’s about right.
PVP (certainly rated pvp) is a tiny microcosm of the wow community. Far less than 10% of the NA playerbase participates in it. Probably 80% of those that will participate, stop or quit before ever reaching any meaningful rank.
Ah I see. Yeah I’d have to definitely disagree with that youtuber. a ridiculously small % of players will ever get 2200 let alone consistently and not just when their class is broken.
Heroic raids I can pug and get carried even if I am pretty terrible. You AINT getting 2200 consistently if ur terrible, despite the somewhat common ideology here that sub 2700 is dog tier
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Obviously it depends on pvp experience and also when you decided to begin but I would say that hitting 2200 is far more difficult than getting an AotC achieve.
Again, that’s assuming you aren’t buying boosts etc. For a player to come in right now at like 197 in full honor gear, playing with your buds to 2200 and learning together is much harder than killing H Sire Denathrius.