Rated BG's for Wrath

WoW Classic Mists of Pandaria Classic Discussion
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It will be fun, its more balanced any way.

Make it so!

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Rated BGs didn’t come until midway through Cata. So no, we should not have them for wrath, sorry!

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Ok, so what… cash shop did not exist til wrath, Battlenet login not till wrath, batching was not changed until wrath and again in Cata and again in wod; and a million other changes in the order of operations of how spells work and apply changing the meta of the game and how classes are played slight.

Game is still fun, but Classic Wrath of the Litch King is not “Wrath of the Litch King” by Blizzard Entertainment, so lets not pretend they will play identically.

Now if they were to give us the REAL ATR servers as a platform for Wrath Classic instead of the retail engin; then I am 100% no changes.

If they are using the retail engine, game on man whatever is best wins this battle, and RBG is good!

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Nah. Classic WotLK with the few changes they have done for TBC classic will be perfect.

If they release Cata then by all means, add it in then.

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So because there have been a few changes that means we should open the floodgates and let all the changes in?

That’s textbook slippery slope logic.

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BUT I thought the slippery slope was a fallacy… so they say.

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It is. That’s why people are disagreeing with your post.

You are operating under a slippery slope fallacy. The rest of us are not.

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Where am I saying that its a slippery slope tho? I don’t see any problem associated with adding RBG to Wrath.

I don’t see a single way this escalates in a negative way. It was you that brought up the slippery slope, not I.

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OK, you don’t know what a slippery slope is I’m gathering.

Your entire justification for adding in RBGs is: “There’s already been x changes, might as well add z change”

That’s a slippery slope.

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I was pointing out there are already changes, this is not a “pure” version of TBC, nor was it Classic, and that RBG’s would harm nothing.

Its fine to argue against RBG’s, but actually argue against it rather than going into a pointless can of worms.

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Totally agree, Rated BG’s would be a great addition, and the good part is…there is 0 cons to it.

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Exactly… The only people who would argue against it are either being ridiculous OR have some sort of hidden motives. So far I have seen no actual argument other than “Herpa-derp, it was not in till cata” That’s not an argument, its only a statement of the facts of the past.

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No thanks. Random bgs where the casuals live will die.

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They dont remove casual random BG’s they only need to add Rated BG’s for those of us who want them.

If RBG was a thing, they could even limit the group size of rando BG’s to 3 or something so that its more casual friendly.

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Rated Battlegrounds would fix:

  • Premades going into regular BG’s. Now premades would be incentivized with arena points/ rewards/titles for doing Rated BGs.

  • Another alternative for gaining arena points without having to do 2s,3s,5s.

  • Rated BG’s are great for having fun and working as a big team for an objective.

Rated BG’s would also increase participation in total PvP.
A lot of players would come back to WoW classic for Rated BG’s.
Some classes/spec shine in RBG’s. It is a total win-win for everybody invovled.

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Not true at all, random BG’s were populated just fine during CATA/MOP.

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Not compared to Wrath or TBC. To be fair my bg experience ended pretty much after Wrath…because of rated bgs. Suddenly even bgs were turned into an e-sport. And of course the mass homogenization meaning every class now had a stun, silence, slow, etc. and bgs were just endless cc-fest, all of which was a result of ‘balancing’ pvp as an e-sport.

And also, when anyone says ‘there’s 0 cons to something’ it just shows they’re not willing to look beyond their own personal opinion.

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Well that’s the thing, its only opinion. So what are the cons of RBG in wrath?

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You’re making the same mistake that dual spec people and guild bank people in Classic and every other type who ask for changes not in that version of the game. It’s not up to the people advocating for authenticity to defend it.

The question is what good would it be adding something from Cata into Wrath. I don’t see any advantages. The type of player who it might appeal to can get that experience from Retail, which is built entirely as an e-sport. The casual gamer trying to recapture the Wrath experience just wants to have fun. Everything doesn’t need to be a contest. I would play a Classic serve to get away from that kind of design. To force it back into a version of the game didn’t existed would be incredibly jarring. You or anyone can’t predict what would happen and how it would change the experience to take a major thing like that and shove it into a time of the game it didn’t exist. It’s much safer just to say, “This is Wrath. Enjoy.” 12 million people did back in the day. Remember Cata when half those players left? Is that the road you want to take Wrath?

I know you don’t like this answer, Harland, but…rated bgs weren’t in Wrath. It really is that simple, and that is not only a justifiable reason, it’s really the only reason that matters. You don’t need to say anything beyond that. Before Classic launched people were demanding features from TBC. During TBC people are demanding features from Wrath. Wrath hasn’t even been announced and people are demanding features from Cata. There’s this part of me that just says…why can’t people play an expansion and just enjoy that expansion?

I agree with you on a lot of topics, Harland. You’re not some clueless troll and I respect your desire for a feature of the game you personally enjoy. But just because you have that desire doesn’t mean it’s shared by many others or that it would be good for the game. I would just encourage to accept Wrath for what it is and enjoy it and not focus quite so much on where the grass might be greener. It’s amazing how often that doesn’t turn out to be true.

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This such a terrible, bad take. Retail is garbage not because of RBGs but because of the class balance/design decisions that have turned it into a terrible game.

Probably because your not a PvP’er…so why do you care that PvP gets an additional way to PvP?
Clearly your over-stepping your boundaries.

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