Rank 350 and still no were near the title. Mean while rank 4,000 DH get theirs. we bring no utility no one wants to invite wars +18. been trying all week despite beating PSF 18. we have no utility and r always LAST in dps every single game. have to press like 10 buttons before we do any damage SS ravager avatar WB then have to build up 10 stacks of CM then demolish and wait 21 seconds for a CD. All while trying to dodge Mechanic and stay with in melee range with only 2 defensive CD.
Warrior should always be like a mage in damage. itâs r only thing. yet another nerf to b tier class. Do u guys know how much better you have to be then any other classes is F*** ridiculous. Every attack is in melee range and rage capped every other class generates resources by doing NOTHING. their is about 10 different ways to use MS OP cleave and SS alone. why would anyone play warrior when you can face roll their keyboard as ret and do more damage with one 1 button. Eh. a mage can spam frost built and do warrior damage lmao.
Another nerf to the tier set bonus r u out of your minds. warrior should always be first in melee dps i said what i said. pally/dk r casters with range warriors need something to compensate. Image being so incompetent u have fix a class through the tier set lmao. Iâm so fed up I donât even feel like complaining anymore. warriors will never be meta do to all the issues. we should at least be in the top 3 dps every season. For an off meta pure damage when was the last time fury or arms was in MDI never. u had to ban classes and still only prot
Itâs near impossible to good damage with bad players. Literally just got flamed by people in a +16. They did under 2m dps on the dimamic duo and was all pad on big momma 1b to adds and 200m to the boss. then they kick me when I have the most kicks and boss damage. Yeah then get kicked 2 seconds before we beat the boss in another +16. Idk what the dude was trying to do. Itâs great some no name rank 3999 DH has more IO then you when ur the rank like 350 warrior. should have just rolled a meta class all hugely inflated IO. now Iâm stuck behind the curve stuck with all the +16 bads. I legit saw 9% parse rogue do more dps then a 100% warrior. This game is a joke. Every forum post is saying warriors r trash. blizzard wont even give us padding dps for trash pulls so we arenât the community punching bag every game. literally LAST IN DPS EVERY GAME when u the other player r semi competent is a joke. still canât out DPS rets in +14 if they 1/4 of a brain. maybe +12. But it pretty dam close. 4m baseline dps. canât even let the harder class have the potential of doing more damage even if we play perfect itâs no were even close. but seem to get more kicks then the tanks every game with a melee range kick.
There is like a billion nuance things u need to know as a warrior. 1 target 2 3 and 4+ all different rotations. on top 4-5 multipler and if u miss ur demolish or CD u do damage.
If you are talking about dps warrior then there are plenty of problems with these 2 specs:
Firstly, fury has a hard cap of 5. This makes this spec automatically out of the m+ circle. While arms has better situation with cleave, but it is soft-capped at 5, so it scales poorly in masspulls.
Secondly, both fury and arms have no scaling with the pull size. If you have take a look at meta classes, they all have strong scaling with the pull size on top of being superior in uncapped AOE or godlike funnel damage. However, warrior has none of them.
The only saving grace of dps warrior is to have battle shout, which is only valuable in a full physical comp. Physical comps are very limited and unpopular. This makes dps warrior harder to climb the rio ladder.
Yeah warriors r trash, all the other classes just have to press 1 button. Donât have to spend 40 seconds building up their main attack with 4 cd multiplers only to have it cucked if the wind blows. paladins EH alone does more damage then like 4 of r button. ferals have a huge bleed moonkins have starfall just a huge aim bots.
We have to press like 5 buttons and then build up 10 stacks of CM just to do any damage. then god forbid the mobs get scattered or the tank pull them in the other direction. a strong bleed and 8 yard cleave with 360 degrees would fix a lot of stuff. 5 yards in 180 cone with 5 target soft cap is ridiculous at this point. after spending a talent point only to loose 180 degrees, Just when u compare us to other class. I donât even care about balance at this point. unless we get some spiritual pressure ability do damage just by standing next to mobs like paladins Iâm not coming back. Iâm so fed up at this point. blizzard needs to make us S+ dps for me to come back. quit in shadow lands really gave it my all this season. I mean I started like 3 months ago. itâs better then Shadowlands but not good enough to make me stay. maybe Iâll go play FFA14. wow is dying. I paid for a year 1/2 game time just so I wouldnât quit. But Iâll just let it to waste. warriors get treated like the Epstein files lmao.
Just a little feedback or tweaks n I would have stayed. Now nothing short of a cake and an apology will bring me back. (Meta for the season). last dps with no potential at top in high keys is a joke. 9% rogues r doing more dps then the best warrior. got a 99% per the key on a cinderbrew rogue did like 50k more dps then me and his parse was like 29% lmao. need a flat out like 25% dps increase and even then we still would do less then unholy and ret lmao. devs need to be fired maybe if they fired ian. I would take a purpled haired SJW or 343 over this crap. Disney would do a better job. literally inserting PC crap at this point like thrall getting a s** change would be an improvement. On heaping pile of dog fecal matter wasted 15 years of my life on garbage. Just had to change servers to due countless connections issue. finally no more 10000ms on a 2Gb/s connection. Canât even hold a connection to Chi servers from LA. built a 6k set up just to play. Never investing my time or money in to blizzard game again. They r just trolling us and they get off on it
dps warrior is a popular class, but has never been meta for once despite being one of the oldest classes. But, generally, from what I see, warrior players seemly are very tolerant. I once was told by this class discord âif you want to be meta, play another classâ. In their perception, warrior class should never be good by default.
Iâve also never seen warrior players trying to connect each others to make some demands. Random complaint threads in class forum about âmy spec is badâ that die down after a few days wouldnât draw blizzard attention.
This is not true at all. We want to be a good solid class, not over powered or broken. Iâd love to see dps warrior be a meta class, but we all know it just wonât happen. Blizzard are too biased against the class. They would rather it just be trash.
Itâs less so because vdh is too strong, and more so that this season has been too easy.
You a way smaller gap between title and bleeding edge keys this season compared to last season. Last season title was all 16s and some 17s if I recall correctly, while bleeding edge keys were +20. Now the title is all 19s and some 20s (if I remember correctly), whilst bleeding edge keys are 21.
Thereâs simply too many players reaching the mathematical limit of which keys are possible, and most of these will of course be groups that consist of meta specs.
Although Iâll agree, vdh is busted (in a voice com group).
It doesnât have to be the title key ranges to make players favor meta classes. Meta classes overall perform better. When key holder lists a key, he wants the highest chance of success. Between choosing strangers from meta classes and non-meta classes, he is obviously choose the meta ones. Moreover, since meta classes are more popular, players play how to play with them more often and adapt to their toolkits and playstyle. There are also some tricks that can be done by meta classes, when you run with a non-meta classes, they usually donât have any tricks to offer. Even if they do, you arenât familiar with their tricks, and itâs very likely for you to fail the tricks and the keys.
Not necessarily true, meta comps perform better, given that people are good enough to utilize it. A group of players with average skill would probably have an easier time with Guardian druid, Resto shaman, Ret paladin, BM hunter, and Havoc dh than they would with a meta comp.
In higher keys, youâre likely to build a comp that fits your spec as a key holder. If youâre playing a current meta spec, you likely donât want an off-meta spec such as arms/prot warrior. If youâre playing for example a ww monk though you are much more likely to prefer arms/prot warrior over a vdh/boomkin/arcane mage/unholy dk.
Then there are also a ton of stupid people even among the higher keys, that wants meta specs without understanding why they should or shouldnât bring them. Whatâs the point of bringing vdh if youâre playing a physical DPS? Itâd be much more beneficial to bring warrior/brew/guardian druid.
I agree, but that can be said the same to any comp.
Ret is an easy class, so itâs easy to see players peform decently on it. But itâs an AoE spec, and even in a hand of pug players, boomies are still more valuable because of solar beam, motw, and being a ranged dps.
Havoc is a funnel dmg type dps, but its funnel dmg pales when compared arcane mage. That doesnât need to mention the lust mage brings.
If we talk about bottom specs such as dps warrior, the situation is even worse. Bad AoE dmg, no funnel dmg, situational buff.
Rsham is very useful, it offers a lot of utilities to the party. But disc priest wins in term of synergy with VDHs, and 80% of m+ tanks are VDHs.
I mean, I had one calling out the devs for gaslighting us in that interview a couple weeks ago. Using fury warr as a direct example of being â5-target cleave champâ getting out 5-target cleaved by the uncapped classes, they glanced over the issue and just said âwell we plan to make fights where each class will get their chance to shineâ.
Thread got deleted outright. So yeah, thereâs somebody watching.
But we are in agreement that if you are for example a 3.1k rated player looking for players of equal rating to run keys with you, then itâs wiser to invite these easier specs because players are likely to perform better with those than with more complex classes such as Arcane mage?
Donât get me wrong, playing meta specs still gives you a lot of benefits in the shape of opportunities; you get more invites as a meta spec. If youâre not an exception player you donât get the benefits of more power or utility, because you likely wonât understand how to use it properly.
For example, just how many boomies do you see use solar beam as a ST interrupt instead of an aoe silence in 10-14 keys? I know Iâve seen a ton that uses it like that whilst Iâm gathering instead of after when Iâve stacked the mobs.
If we look at this example, how many times do you see disc priest waste or not use PS when they should, or use PI on someone whose cooldowns are on cd?
The class has extreme potential, but outside of high keys most players fail to utilize that potential.
I mean hasnât this situation been the case for almost every spec thatâs not classified as the âmetaâ for a particular M+ season?
You generally have 3 options when going for the title in any given season assuming you donât want to fotm reroll every balance patch.
You adapt and find people willing to push for the title as a group together in a non meta build with other non meta players thatâs title viable.
You adapt and play the spec youâre more likely to get into groups with at that later level of title viability in the case of this season itâs Protection which would have an easier time over Arms/Fury.
Or you can call it for the season.
Plenty of people still make titles without being meta as they push their spec to the limit and find likeminded players. Half of the game really is social networking when you get to that level alongside your own skill at doing your role.
Lets face it a lot of the wow population that have the time to push for said titles, also lack in that department as theyâre not well adjusted socially.
One thousand percent agree. Not sure what else to do at the moment.
I have EVERY class at max level and everything you said is true. I have to put infinite more effort on my warrior compared to almost any class save maybe fire mage and assassination rogue.
Otherwise, most spec can kind of mash button a little.
I was just on the MOP PTR and realized we have more defensive in an expansion that was how long ago?
These defensives are important because we HAVE to stand in melee range as tanks zoom around gathering things.
Its so bad I said F it and thinking of just tanking. Of course they nerfing that too though.
Bro you need to seek therapy or medical attention fast. For someone who does 16 to 18 level keys you are raging and demanding job firings, thrall sex changes and such. All because you are not top DPS. Dear Lord.
All I know is I am still the only active Warrior in my guild since this XPack dropped. I donât even bother with M+ as DPS because I only get an invite for things I am over geared for. PvP is not entertaining me lately. At least I have a lot of fun tanking the raid for my guild.
I donât know where you picked up âunkillable DPSâ to describe bfa prot war when it did a half of a real dps.
I didnât play legion, so I may be wrong about legion. but raiderio doesnât provide any information before 7.2 so itâs hard to tell whether arms were meta in legion s2
