Oh! Sorry, first time posting. Isn’t there a retail forum? I don’t play retail and I understand this change is affecting them but since this is a WOLK forum, I think we should focus on the impact it’s going to have on Wrath. I can see how it maybe worse for retail but it doesn’t mean the issue is any less important in WOTLK.
but why, retail is garbage anyway, who cares how broken retail gets, its irrelevant
I hope WA is next. FIX the game.
I don’t know why these people can’t figure out the only reason you brought up retail is because that’s why the change happened. Not that you are turning this into a retail forum…
The dented takes of people that can’t clear content and want the removal of DBM/WA. Are they needed? No but they help. Lets just stop using everything that makes life easier, no more using cars to get to work you better walk and also make sure if you need information you go down to the library and find it in a book and don’t use the internet.
Walking will help you get in shape and visiting your local library will allow you to meet local people that you can form lasting real relationships. Theres things to be said for inconvienences.
Let’s just introduce a buff that makes you take 99% less damage and do 99% more damage. That would definitely make a game for entertainment much easier.
In 12 to 15 hours, you can get from level 1 to 60 in retail, and easily solo all of the ICC bosses without addons.
I said easier, not trivializes. We aren’t teleporting around instantly to where we need to go there’s at least some time/effort investment. Also you are 4/12 heroic my worst gdkp is doing better than you are progression wise. We could give you 2 years and you would never kill h lk without a buff.
You need a clown horn to let you know you’re standing in fire. Let’s not pretend that DBM and WA are being used to solve the fights.
I am fine with range finder to be honest, because you still have to move around on your own, it’s just a little radar to point out to you where other people are at. I don’t like the ones that solve the mechanic, like Bite Order WA that assigns your bite targets for you based on damage and proximity.
6/12
I don’t play with sound and haven’t for years.
Don’t pretend that graphics and mechanics line up perfectly. Having tools to help you know when you’re standing in fire when you’re not isn’t a crutch. Stop trying to be an elitist, it’s not a good look
Blizzard needs to not create mechanics that require actions that require addons
My bad. I thought you were accusing people of being bad for using those addon’s. I take it all back. My apologies.
It’s cool. I was saying that I think the game would be better without the addons, but Blizzard has to adjust the game to fix that communication problem before removing the addons. So I can see how you thought that’s what I was saying
I’ll bet good players could clear content without DBM.
Bruh
As my guildie pointed out, this makes sense for retail, because the game actually has visual indicators for AoE effects. In retail, it’s actually possible to know how far you are from nearby players without the use of addons, or at least to know if your positioning is correct.
This is not the case for classic!!! On many fights in WotLK, it’s essential to stand at a specific distance from other players, within 1 or 2 yard margin of error! How the actual hell are we supposed to do this without range checking? It’s not impossible, but this is a massive change to raiding!
Garbage!!!
Sure people will adjust. Doesn’t negate my point.
Yeah, it kinda does.
This isn’t helpful to the discussion