Notwithstanding that the clip above showcases a random feral druid and the perspective is from Ahlaundoh, the #1 ranked fury warrior according to Warcraftlogs, the overall data comparing feral dps to fury dps in Ulduar also reflects a great disparity between the capabilities of the two classes (See classic.warcraftlogs. com/zone/statistics/1017).
Do fury warriors need a slight buff? Perhaps.
Do feral druids need a slight nerf? Maybe. But instead of adjusting feral druids again, wouldn’t the easier solution be to adjust fury warriors slightly to be on par?
Generally taking something that’s been given already away from someone is harder to do and met with more pushback than giving something and not taking it away.
This is stupid paragraph holy cow lmao.
Reverting buffs is generally less easy to do than buffing others to compensate?
Reverting the feral buff would mean bringing feral druids back to a place where they were both unfun to play and putting out extremely low dps. This isn’t a great solution.
Buffing fury warriors in any number of the many ways that community has suggested seems to be a cleaner fix.
Blizzard is an Indie gaming company can’t afford 1 mathematicians to solve the equation of scaling damage so the pack is tighter in equal gear. It has been this way for years, and years ago Holinka laughed on twitter when I told him “math isn’t hard so balance your game.”
They make disparities due to revenue driven purposes. They want to keep certain base happy, and another unhappy so they’ll buy: transfers, faction swaps, race changes, and boosts to preroll FoTM.
You mean the spec that was buffed from last to last? Fantastic example
Which spec are we talking about? The answer is no I don’t care. If tomorrow combat was bottom of the barrel I wouldn’t care. I already endured all of TBC as a rogue.
They were buffed modestly because they were underperforming substantially in a post-ICC patch environment without the accompanying ICC gear. This was not intended.
Do you see any ret paladins complaining about the buff or saying that it wasn’t enough? You don’t.
You’re also discounting the amount of utility that a paladin brings to the raid. Numerous buffs, d sac, wipe recovery, etc.
A buff shooting them straight to the top of the meters wouldn’t have been appropriate.
Warriors are in a similar position. Munching deep wounds aside, they are performing significantly worse because of the armor pen nerf and the 10% titan’s grip penalty. Both of these changes were balanced appropriately with ICC gear. Without ICC gear, they are performing poorly.
Feral druids. The point of this post and the video that I posted.
What it sounds like you’re saying is, “I had it rough so everyone should too.” This isn’t a great take.
TBC didn’t have class changes. WOTLK now does. The door is now open for changes.
If combat was in a similar position to fury, I’d be posting the same thing in support of a buff to combat.
looks at overall dmg warrior is 1.7k dps ahead, “hes in naxx gear!” mouses over dreambinder and legguards of cunning deception
hes 300 dps ahead on a single target 40 second encounter vs a feral and forgets to play his character because hes so tilted by a feral, doesn’t potion or troll racial, spends 30 seconds mousing over random ulduar bis items and then loses
excellent thread, really, not sponsored by big warrior copers
So according to WClogs the top 50 guilds bring are composed of 9.2% fury warriors which seems really low but then you look at your argument and realize 8.6% are ret. Fury is brought over ret. Most just bring one of each spec like several other specs. It’s a warlock/DK stack game and imo neither should be touched at all. This is a finished game, there is another version of balancing changes are necessary for your enjoyment.
Your other example, Feral druids, are the reason they should be never touch a anything else ever again. They made the change to combat a degenerate playstyle and underestimated the gains. Why would possibly doing that again be a good idea? They’ve already said they don’t want phase by phase balancing and want the game to scale as it originally did. So what do you do with buffed warriors when they scale past everything in ICC due to knee jerk early phase buffs? You’d have to rebalance again. The better choice is to do nothing more instead of causing further damage.
I’m also ok with feral because let’s be real here. When has feral ever done this well? Warriors, rogues, mages, locks,DKs, we’ve all had our time. I’m good with leaving them in this state and touching nothing more.
The DK giving Hysteria to a Feral for a 40 second fight is likely 2k-2.5k dps. So no it’s not alarming. To give perspective, a Blood DK DPS in P2 BIS will beat a warrior on that 40 second fight. However, considering DRW is bugged it would probably be a close tie.
hes ilevel 227, that’s like 10 ilevels ahead of naxx bis, he has a 252 weapon and overall he lost by almost 2k dps, he is close on a random single target fight where he has hysteria half of the encounter