Yes, I am talking about their arguments. His argument was he works a full time job (but spends most of his time on the forum throughout the day which isnt working), building a house which I work in the industry and know what is involved and if he was building his own house he would be absolutely exhausted not only physically but mentally from building codes and inspectors that will just make stuff up or say “the code has changed” which we have seen a lot and then he has the time to also log onto WoW and make all these social connections through running heroics and normal dungeons (like how many social connections do you need) calling these people friends but not actually friends and he sounds like he isnt productive because hes posting on the forums while at work apparently, and hes turning to WoW to fill his friends list instead of making actual connections with people.
Call it what you will, but compulsive liars need to be called out and he has been caught lying compulsively time and time and time again. They are compounding on top of each other at this point.
I was in here with him, zipzo, and bloom at the outset. I am very familiar with all of their bogus “gotcha” attempt posts and whines.
I just leave the real world out of it and focus on in game. Surprised if he hasn’t blocked me at this point. Happy if he has.
Boils down to differences in argument style between us then. To me the best thing I can do against someone blatantly lying is prove them wrong, drilling in isn’t my style. Which by the way I don’t disagree that there is a history of falsehoods that are being pushed by certain posters for sure.
There is no proving them wrong because they wont engage in any good faith conversation. They say go play another game with RDF, you ask them what game is like wrath that has RDF which I have asked multiple times and then… its crickets. There is no answer, they just have bad faith arguments and constant lies. They just ignore it for a few days and then say it again.
Nochanges means no RDF until ICC. If they go that route, sure I guess, it symbolically represents the downfall of WoW with the fall of the lich king.
The vast majority of RDFers making this argument are also hypocrites. The pro RDFers have been the most vocal advocates of layering, boosts, tokens, and class changes. They only play the nochanges card when it’s convenient.
They wont engage… at all. Its literally a forum troll that alt hops. They have the same arguments as a few others, the exact same arguments and mannerisms.
Ah yes, the blatant troll is here.
-broad unverifiable statements? check.
-Ignoring how no other system has had to “Wait till the right phase”? check
-ignoring the verifiable support of the original dev team on including a automated grouping tool? check. (also verifiable)
-I am pro RDF and massively against the WoW token, this is verifiable. There goes your entire broad statement.
Time to change which character you post on, people know your entire schtick at this point.
I would have had no problems if duel spec waited until Ulduar like original. The value of gold is worthless in wrath anyway so duel spec isn’t very valuable anyway like it would be in TBC and vanilla where 50g respec for pvp or farming constantly was a big deal. In wrath that would give you something at all to spend your gold on.
By the same logic, cross realm BGs should never have been off the bat in classic vanilla. Cross realm BGs were one of the greatest mistakes in classic and had no right to be in the game until TBC at least.
RDF is destructive to the game and the audience who wanted classic wanted to move away from those anti-mmo features.
Duel spec is something the community was more split on, where the vast majority of exclusive classic players are hardline against RDF. The crying for RDF mostly comes from a minority of retailers.
How is RDF destructive to the game, and bear in mind I’m going to assume you’re going to at least pretend to have played classic with it’s boosting and spellcleaves.
I’ve never bought a boost. Never bought one from a mage/pally, never bought one from blizzard, and the people who ran the /spit weak aura on the endorsers of pay to win deserve a medal. The SoM boosting nerfs needed to be on classic day 1 and never any pay to win boosts from blizzard.
I assume you’ve heard them but since you don’t value those things you pretend they don’t exist. Auto teleport shrinks the open world, and there is significant diminished incentive to group up, make friends, and establish leveling guilds. My best memories in WoW are from the organic groups made for dungeons, and the large scale world pvp chaos (but that’s a different topic). The “group” you get in from RDF are glorified bots and there is 0 repercussions for poor behavior. Blizzard could make dungeons solo with NPCs fighting by you instead of players and it would be no different from RDF.
It literally does not, and by that logic any teleport does the same thing of which there are quite a few already.
This is demonstrably false in game, the vast majority of people treat pug dungeons as single serving friends(and always did going back to vanilla), RDF has no impact on that.
The repercussion for bad behavior is the exact same as it is without RDF, you get removed from the group.
And since groups are already no different than RDF groups by that logic we’re already playing with bots.
