I’m coming back into the game and catching up on the lore, and this expansion really grinds my gears.
Really Sylvanas decided to burn down the world tree on a whim because one elf told her hope exists or w/e. Her purpose was to occupy Teldrassil, so it isn’t like she wanted to destroy their hope in the first place. Feels like lazy writing. I would rather that a rogue element had burnt it and Sylvanas regretted what happened but had to stand by her decisions.
I think that Thrall should have stayed Warchief, never been the Grand Shaman or w/e, and that Cairne and Vol’Jin should still be living. They killed off too many main Horde people and left lesser or no leaders in their place
Like they built up Anduin really well, but didn’t do the same with any replacement Horde leaders
We’re told from the beginning that Sylvanas and the Forsaken don’t really give a crap about the Horde and didn’t really want to join them, but we have Sylvanas yelling “Warchief” with concern on the Broken Isles as if she’d really care that a troll died. Her retreating is perfectly fine and makes sense.
Her being made Warchief is not necessarily stupid if there is a war going on, since she was a general, but she is thrown into the game at a time when peace was most attainable in the history of the Horde-Alliance conflict. If Baine were leader, we would be at peace right now.
I really feel like she was shoe-horned into the position of Warchief purely for the sake of fan service. I haven’t completed BfA content so forgive me if I’ve missed some lore that makes this all make sense and worth it, but I really feel like the Horde keeps getting dragged through the mud and made more and more incomprehensible as a political organization.
It’s not even unhinged. Everyone’s so wildly out of character and pointlessly reacting to plot points that the conflict has no teeth.
What’s going to happen next? Who cares? Sylvanas will engage in Old God shenanigans. The Horde will say “too far, also we’re not responsible.” They’ll unite to confront a greater evil and so forth and so on.
Like, they came right out and said that the goal was to rehash. Even Blizzard has checked out of their own story.
Yeah I’m really confused on this expansion coming right after Legion. It feels like a new company took over.
Why not make Baine leader and have the Alliance and Horde engage in a cold war? They could still be trying to recruit allies and steal Azerite, but work with SI:7 and, I guess, spy orcs to gain the upper hand. Give some major/minor characters room to grow without making someone a major baddie.
Have us have to team up against Azshara. No one wants to fight Sylvanas.
I love the zones of this expansion, but I don’t care for the final boss to be someone who was a minor bad guy until literally this expansion.
No it wasn’t on a whim. In “A Good War” it goes more in depth why she burned it. It was to improvise the original plane. Malfurions death was meant to crush the NEs spirits (And yes this plane would have work. Hell’ IRL it has) and Saurfang screws up that plane and even Sylvanas admits its her fault for leaving it in his hands. High profile leaders serving neat death experiences can insider people and if that happen Teldrassil wouldn’t be much of a bargaining chip. So mass killing was the next best thing to do.
Even the U.S. has committed actions equally as bad as Teldrassil. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden and Tokyo ring any bells?
I think he’s suggesting what we had during Vanilla and BC: fighting over key objectives, but in small skirmishes so that political plausible deniability could be maintained (ie: it’s harder to declare war when it’s just mercenaries fighting on other peoples’ behalf) as opposed to outright genocide followed by Saurfang Manpain.
It actually was on a whim. Presented as it is in-game, the whole action was painted as illogical, irrational and overly emotional. Novellas are extraneous errata.
Is this bad faith derailment the new go-to for Sylvanas fans?
There’s lots of fictional works that’ve explored the idea of an actual war between NATO and the USSR, though. And many of them do involve some kind of limited azerite nuclear exchange.
You mean the sidestory that is completely unavailable ingame and holds crucial information to major story event that would be better as in-game content?
You know you’re right, it wasn’t on a whim. She muses in A Good War how it was always going to come to this and that it’s just happening sooner than she expected. Thus she had planned, from the very beginning, to commit literal genocide
Congrats, “A Good War” manages to make her even more unilaterally evil
Yeah, I feel like this would have been refreshing. Throw in some cool world building. Updating new zones might be too much to ask, but toss in some lore about how we’re working on it.
We took Lordaeron and just left. Jaina dispelled the plague, so that means mahes can just dispell plague now. Do that and let us even push towards Gilneas.
Lots of small stuff, and lead into the next big thing.