You beat me to it.
The game achievements themselves stated ANY DIFFICULTY and that includes LFR, as Wow’s own website says. For months people knew of it being ANY DIFFICULTY.
And no one had a problem with it or spoke up against it.
Only when the circumstances were changed days before the Season starts and players started speaking up about how it isnt right to change it, thats when some people, like you it seems, started to have an issue with LFR getting it.
My favorite threads are the ones who are mocking people who are upset, and then saying “just buy a wow token and get a carry” which is the exact same thing these people think they are doing through lfr, just without spending $20 on a wow token to give that gold to someone else.
I must have missed those threads. Seen quite a few “this is just them trying to get people to buy tokens”, as if Blizzard’s business model relies on people paying others to play the game for them. (It doesn’t, btw, and the notion is silly.)
But I haven’t actually seen anybody say to people “you should just buy a carry”. The sentiment I do keep seeing is that Normal is very easy (it is) and people shouldn’t be afraid of it (they shouldn’t).
In any case, Blizzard messed up on that achievement text and will probably adjust the achievement to match the printed text.
And then everybody will talk about how great Blizzard is and that they’re really listening now, for having the achievement match the achievement text.
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The only reason is that the achievements have been in the live game for weeks stating that it is attainable at any level. Why the change? Why the slimecat on a stick?
I’d say the only reason we were led to believe that is the absence of distinct achievements from LFR to normal. If they existed, the cat would have been tacked on normal from the start.
Do not give a mount to players for free and keep the sense of accomplishment to those who do the content. I hear a lot of players complaining about the casual or players with disabilities. I don’t think content should be handed to everyone. If players really want the mount then they can play the game or buy a boost.
she also posts later down when a community council member says it should just be mythic and she quotes “i’d just buy a token for a carry”
Thanks for the link. What a silly thread. That OP’s post history is also interesting.
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No one cares what “content creators” think
Lots of us do.
Really? What on earth for?
I find myself agreeing with the majority of asmongold, belluar, and preach are saying and their opinions about things. I don’t agree on everything but theres a lot that opens up lines of thoughts or different perspectives. Does Belluar stretch out things a lot and use click baity titles half the time, he sure does. Did asmongold have a toxic past and was an *** for most of his time as a content creator, he sure did. But people change and sometimes for the better. He’s still blunt and sometimes he is still an *** but he’s not a bad person. And if people don’t want to watch him or they dont want to like them, then thats their choice and more power to them.
The thing is, people post on this forum everything they say anyway, so we can’t get away from them even if we don’t want to watch them.
I do agree some people will post and cling to everything he says, and I only brought him up to point out this was not my idea originally and that i’m quoting someone else.
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Asmongold recently said today
Asmongold don’t know
The fellow hasn’t actually experienced the game as a player since he became an internet personality.
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I feel like I know exactly that reason, it is gate keeping and community standards. It is hard if not hostile to enter the raiding community as a casual or someone who prefers to be alone.
It really isn’t though, you just need to enter the right community, that is what guilds are for.
There is no hostility at all, you just need to know what you are aiming at and what you expect from a guild, then go for it.
There are many super casual friendly guilds who will take anyone regardless of initial skill and just steadily chug through the raid content.
There is no point looking for a high end elitist guild that has a bunch of raid prep requirements and is really serious if that’s not what you are after.
The same also works in reverse, you want a guild that is aiming to and has the ability to achieve the same goals as you are striving for.
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I do agree some people will post and cling to everything he says, and I only brought him up to point out this was not my idea originally and that i’m quoting someone else.
That’s the thing, though. If we wanted to know what some streamer thinks, we’d tune in ourselves. We don’t, because we don’t care what they think.
As for what you think, people are happy to hear it. I’d suggest next time leaving the streamers out of it. People come to this forum to hear what other players think, not what streamers think.
For me, the main problem with raiding is that there is so much waiting. Waiting for people to get there or get summoned, or get back when they change talents, waiting for people to apply or log on, etc. Also, too many trash mobs.
To many paladins to compete with in a raid spot D:
but yes thats also an issue.
I don’t think we can look at “raiding” as a whole because the different forms are so wildly different from each other. In a well-oiled raiding guild, everyone’s on and you have plenty of people wanting to raid, so waiting isn’t an issue.
On the other hand, Mythic raiding has so many problems (like spreadsheet bosses) that players doing other forms don’t have to deal with at all.
wait you been and / or seen guilds with so many people on who can just raid when ever they want with who ever is interested in joining? Those aren’t just rumors, hopes, and dreams? Cause really i never been in one within WoW but i have found 1 in FF14 but even that still feels rare.
Well people aren’t on 24/7 just waiting for something to happen, but you have pre-arranged times when the raids happen and everyone’s on for those, yeah. Most guilds also have a discord these days so people can post if they can’t be there for some reason (usually work overtime, kids are sick, out of town, etc.).
That’s how raiding guilds work. That’s their whole purpose.
never been in a guild that adaptable or big tbh.