Raiderio is toxic and ruins the game for many

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i have an unpopular opinion how about people dont use any mods what so ever. because seriously it only causes drama and problems in the long term.

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raider io is going to be in shadowlands as well or for however long they keep m+, so no they arent listening

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Shadowlands has all the gatekeeping that already exists and now another “gate” in covenants.

You’ve just deluded yourself into thinking it’s a win for you. But you don’t play the game, so you wouldn’t understand how it isn’t.

I hope you enjoy it too, but I don’t think you will.

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Just run with the same people. If you find someone that you get along with just add them to b-tag.

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Because it helps players take people only with experience instead of having patience to get something done a little bit slower but helps gear others up.

Such a easy concept that other mmos understand.

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You can play the game without raider io.
Just join a guild, make your own group and level up your own key.

If a lot of people are using it it’s because gear is too easy to get that you gotta find another way to see who aren’t bad at the game. Go back to gear being hard to get and you’ll see less raider io.

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Form your own non-raider IO groups if there are so many of you. Surely you should be able to outnumber those who enjoy the use of raider IO, right?

While you’re at it, form your own raiding guilds that don’t look up anybodies logs or experience and form your own arena groups without checking anyone’s arena rating!

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Make your own group

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Without IO, pugging would not be possible to the degree it is now

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I spent months improving my IO rating steadily doing harder and harder keys and gearing myself up as hard as I can. Why should you get the benefit of all my hard work when you haven’t put the work in yourself?

M+ is one half of the end game. You’re not entitled to come in and get free gear in the hardest content in the game. I need to know you have some idea of what to do because I don’t have time to explain it to you mid run.

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You should focus on leveling up and/or play the game to earn more achievement points, if you play the game the experience will come. If you play it seriously, you will be happier in the long term due to you having a better mount, or better gear, or the privilege of running Ny’alotha Heroic.

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It’s actually because you have 435 ilvl just saying. Was going to offer to help but I doubt even I could get you into decent keys with that ilvl. Only way you are going to be able to fix that is run some M0s get gear and a 2 key and run your own key. It’s going to take a bit won’t lie.

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a lot more people have this problem, ur delusional lol

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Raider IO is an optional tool. You do not have to use it. There is no problem.

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my dude im literally trying to do a +2 and i dont get invited ive tried like 5 groups this morning.

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Because you’re a DPS with a low iLvl and there are hundreds of DPS applying to groups at any given time.

Do you think that problem goes away if you have high IO score?

I have a 4k IO mage and a 3.5k IO Warlock. They both get declined FAR MORE than they get invited. It happens at every level because there are so much more people apping to the group than the group can actually invite.

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I don’t think we’ll have that much of a problem with raider io in SL. The elitists will be in the same boat as everyone else.

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when i was first starting 15s i did completion groups, i didnt care if we timed or not. When you are already at the max gear level (without mythic raiding so 475ish) people dont care about only completing. I want to time. If im 450 ilvl i want to time my 7 key or my 8 key so i can get better loot. Simple train of thought right? Before we had rio ppl inspected you. You can look up someones armory rn and check their dungeon stats.

ill do this with friends and guildies, with randoms that wont thank me and im never going to see again? No way. Unless im farming mounts or in a really good mood for whatever reason im not giving a free carry, ive done that enough

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If it did not take Blizzard 10 million threads on the same thing to finally figure out people did not like something maybe we would see less thread about some stuff. WE are going into the 3rd expansion with a AP grind and they have STILL not figured out we don’t like it. I see another mass exodus coming.

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this. People attribute it to rio, when youre a dps you can apply for 30 mins straight and not get into a key

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