lol, no. I’ve just had a prior conversation with him, and we both accepted that we’re two players with a difference of opinion. It’s called basic human respect.
That was a shot at him earlier. He legitimately said, “I win, you lose. End of debate.” To me. Moreso then a shot at you. Which seems more infinitely triggered then anything I’ve said funnily enough.
Yes, because I proved with objective facts that raiding has more imbalances as far as comps go for fight gimmicks than Mythic+ does.
Then maybe direct it at him rather than me. We aint got beef, chief. I’m just here wondering why you’re seemingly enraged by the concept of a “casual,” when the term doesn’t even have a hard definition at this point.
You havn’t, you brought up a singular boss mechanic that wasn’t all that hard to do once you got used to it and are widely ignoring the fact that there’s commonplace issues in M+'s that make pushing keys in them VASTLY easier for certain classes and setups.
Want me to list all the soak fights ? Seriously ?
I have no qualms with the term casual, I’m moreso confused by his seeming definition of it, that if you’re not in a top tier guild pushing the top content instantly, that you’re a casual which ehhhhhh. I’d be hard pressed to call anyone that puts a good chunk of their week into WoW, but isn’t a top tier mythic raider a “casual.” Just seems very off. There’s most certainly a middle ground to that.
First 10 times = fun
Next 100 times = pita
lol
- T
You want me to list all the broken fights from M+'s since they were introduced? We’d be here all day.
Uh… Heroic raids… “top tier guild” “top content”. What ?
All fights can be completed by any comp at +15 without struggle.
Most players are pushing heroic content for a month or two first, then moving onto pushing Mythic. I have stated that multiple times and if you think that’s false, then I have no words for ya.
Those guys are not Heroic raiders then. They’re Mythic raiders. And completely not the people I’m talking about. You’re venturing into the semi-hardcore side of the playerbase.
Why do you make this so painful when it’s easy to understand. Your anger clouds your judgment.
That’s…nice? Yes, in the hands of the top tiered players, anyone can do anything typically given enough time and the right gear. They might not be competively doing it, aka doing it at the same speeds as others, since the content isn’t as challenging.
There is simply no boss fight that requires any specific class ability to do on a +15 key. All classes can do all those fights perfectly fine.
Unlike things like Raid gimmicks, of which G’huun is a perfect, but not unique, exemple.
Again, not a hard concept.
Firstly, you’re strawmanning it with trying to make me sound “angry”, when I’m anything but, calmly sipping my coffee and watching youtube on my main monitor inbetween replies. Stop trying to force a weird “Angry!!!” narrative. Secondly, I’ve literally said this same exact thing about four times. That Heroic Raiding is part of the progressionary path, NOT the main path. A lot of people will be stuck on it for 1-3 months before finally being able to push forward. By that time, the next patch is being teased for the latter half.
Which means they spent a lot of time in that heroic raid. Meaning that heroic raid was quite a lot of content for them. Also, with the way gearing is being slowed, that means people will be taking LONGER in things like the heroic raid, as their constant ilvl boosts were part of the reason they were pushing content quicker then in past expacs.
I mean yes? I agree that sometimes a raid will have certain requirements that M+'s won’t have. Fully agree there. But overall, it’s a vastly more balenced environment, apart from a couple fights per expac.
mmmhmm.
I think they might be mistaking general difficulty with class-required gimmicks… Not entire sure, but that’s what I’m guessing.
I didn’t realize calling you a goofball hurt you so deeply. That’s a big insult to you bro? haha
He’s the one that insisted Mythic+ had more stringent compositions and class “requirements”. I mean, sure, if we’re talking about the meta for +30 keys, some classes literally can’t live through the unavoidable damage.
But the problem is he is derailing a thread about loot, and as far as loot rewards go, that caps out at +15, where no such requirements exist in Mythic+, while in raiding, a lot of fights have these gimmicks to be navigated by specific class abilities, almost as a staple of the whole genre. But he’s refusing to admit he was wrong. 
Calling anyone, anything, in the course of conversation is sure sign of anger my dude. Calm down, you lost an argument, it’s no biggie, you learned something today.