Yeah were currently progressing heroic Rygelon and our lowest was 15% but someone here looked at that pull and told me we were 20-30 seconds off of hard enrage so yeah…cutting it so short and close during AOTC-mount final patch raid is just insane when you got overtuned bosses like anduin and rygelon on heroic.
Bruh this raid has been nerfed like 40 times and you guys are still complaining?
Not every guild raids 7 days a week, it’s more of a time thing over actual difficulty.
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I dont raid 7 days a week and i cleared sfo fine on my alt
Buying AOTC isn’t the same thing as clearing mythic lmfao.
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Like i said i cleared mythic it on my ALT……A-L-T as in not my main
How is that relevant at all? I’ve killed heroic Jailer 300 times, nobody cares.
Bro read, like is ur brain to slow to comprehend or whats going on
You clearly have a tumor growing, don’t @ me anymore.
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Achievements are account-wide unless you turn them off. Which you haven’t, because you have some Horde only achievements. Is it on another account?
Lmao mad cuz bad
Did you just admit to account sharing on the Blizzard official forums?
Surely not, I can’t believe anyone would be that daft.
Also my guild raids 3x 3.5 hours and we cleared the raid a month ago. I don’t think it was poorly balanced - In fact i think it was really well balanced, the problem is weaker guilds were never going to kill the prenerf bosses so what do you do.
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Dunno - maybe he’s trying to get his brother’s account banned as well. 
-raids way above average
-US 50-100 guild
Ya man idk how everyone just doesn’t already have CE. It’s easy, c’mon.
is 3x3.5 way above average? I’m genuinely curious as It seems like a lot of guilds are 3x3 or 3x3.5. I didn’t say anything about it being easy I’m just commenting if the bosses had come out in the current tuning we have at the moment the raid would have been finished for us in a week.
Blizzard are in a tough situation balancing around guilds like mine who might struggle but overcome harder bosses (Halondrus,Rygelon, Jailer) and guilds who would never be able to beat Halondrus.
This tier has created some interesting conversations on how Blizzards boss design and how nerfs etc should be applied.
Yeah, I’m right there with you. I’m actually in Echo on my other account.
A lot raid 2 day, 6-8 hours or 3 day 9 hours. Guilds who aren’t always US 100 also usually have roster issues throughout a tier or maybe don’t have meta specs on standby.
To say the standard to be even eligible for CE is to raid at a US 100 level is asinine. To make up for down time they’d have to raid even more just to meet the standard. Which leads to burnout and guilds disbanding.
Not everyone has the privilege of raiding in a better guild. Hell, once a tier has started most don’t even recruit anymore. Tbh, most don’t even recruit until a new xpac is launched.
Something that often gets ignored is the available player pool, especially in regards to time zone differences in the USA & Canada.
If you look at the Hall of Fame, for example, only 2 guilds from west coast servers are there, and both of them raid pretty early, at a time when most folks are still working or just getting home from work. This means that they can also tap into the East Coast player pool.
Half of the US population lives in the Eastern Time Zone, another quarter are in Central, right next door (1 hour time difference). The west coast, even combined with adjacent Mountain Time, is the other quarter.
This makes it much harder to even FIND players on the west coast. Which wasn’t an issue 5 or 10 years ago, but with the ever-declining population of the game, it’s becoming an issue.
This is also a reason why Europe always does so well - with the exception of the UK, Portugal, and Finland, all of Western & Central Europe is in a single time zone. And the other countries are only 1 hour off, in either direction.
ya trust me as an oceanic player I am extremely familiar with the problem of a small player pool.
the entire oceanic region (including SEA) has 12 guilds that are CE, with over half of them coming right after the most recent set of crippling Jailer nerfs.
From what I’ve been advised from european players I speak to the bigger issue with this is having them speak the same language.
Getting your undergeared alt carried through an AOTC kill, because you didn’t kill it with your guild’s raid team, while skipping 3 bosses isn’t “clearing fine.” Also let’s see your main’s progression in mythic because that’s honestly the brass tacks here. 2 and 3 night a week mythic guilds are being given less time to clear the raid than it took ECHO to claim world first with the same amount of gear because ECHO was 274 double leggos and 4 set when they finally killed jailer. This raid was massively over tuned to the point that there was no gradual power progression between world first guilds and 2&3 night a week mythic raid guilds.
Edit: Apparently you’re now claiming you’re ban evading by sharing your brother’s account. Why say something like that just to lie about your progress?
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