Honestly Xaethron has been quiet ever since I questioned why they are against inclusivity when everyones been giving good reasons why the slime saber should be on LFR and they have been giving no reasons for why it shouldn’t except LOL git gud.
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So how much $ am I going to have to pay a raid group to carry me?
I hate to bring it up, but the more I think about it this does feel to me like an accessibility issue.
Most things like mythic drop mounts and transmogs and meta achievements don’t matter as much because you can just be patient and come back in a few expansion’s time and earn it solo, or with a small group of friends, after it’s relevant. The prestige has long worn off by that point.
Time-limited rewards, though, are an attempt to please a minority of players with something they can lord over other players they consider ‘lesser’, and are essentially a design choice that says “this reward requires you to be a certain type of person without any of this list of anxieties”.
I honestly wouldn’t care if this was normal-Fated only if I could come back in 2032 and get it then. What I care about is I have two choices: completely give up on a thing I want and am willing to invest some time in my own way into to earn, or force myself into a situation where I spend hours of my week in an elevated level of anxiety, expose myself to potential toxicity like I have seen back in the Balance of Power days, and effectively spend my ‘relaxing game time’ doing something that stresses me out more than my actual job.
What Blizzard does with that feedback is up to them, but I’d like them to strongly reconsider the whole ‘removing content to keep it prestigious’ crap. Even socially anxious people are likely to EVENTUALLY make small groups to do meta achievements once they feel they’re powerful enough to avoid the risk of failure; removing the reward before they can get to that point is practically depriving them of what little social interaction they feel comfortable doing.
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Hi there, holder of the Friendship Moose, the Friendship Birb, the Voidwing and the Zerethsteed, as well as the Kor’kron War-Wolf.
These were not pleasant experiences for me at all, and most of the Casual Players I know did not find them to be ‘fun’ whatsoever. I come largely from Roleplay servers where there isn’t a large PvE community. Even prior to Group Finder, it was EXTREMELY difficult to find a ‘casual guild’ with that level of experience willing to take folks.
And PuGs were horrible. Garrosh, N’zoth, and Zovaal created some of THE most elitist people I have seen in a game, over Heroic-Level raiding. It’s different than playing with friends, or tapping into a ‘broader community of positivity’, you are subject to indvidiuals, who are there for individualist reasons, who may not have the broader raider skillset to see where one’s actions affect the team.
Or worse, they know, and are being toxic over it.
Most ‘casual’ players I know have boosted for ALL of these mounts, whether through Gold or RMT. I boosted for the Friendship Moose, because Heroic Garrosh Prog was so toxic it put me to tears and turned me off of raiding. The ‘Friendship Moose’ had a waitlist that some took FOUR MONTHS to get through for major communities putting folks through for free.
Either toss LFR, or allow LFR to contribute in the community’s eyes to ‘real progressive raiding’. The only people this hurts are casual players wanting to experience the content for what APPEARS to be a limited time reward.
All it does is encourage that toxic, elite mentality.
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For the Obsidian World Breaker Mound (Deathwing Mount) for 15 year anniversary
How to get the mount
The first thing you need to do is log onto your level 120 character and visit the nearest mailbox. There, you should find a special package from the WoW dev team, including a Nefarian pet, a boost to your reputation and experience, some fireworks, and, most importantly, a quest.
When you open the package, the quest should automatically pop up on the right side of your screen with instructions to follow. A Timely Invitation will lead you to Chromie—the time Gnome—in the Caverns of Time. To find Chromie, locate your closest Caverns of Time portal (the Mage Quarters in Stormwind and the Portal room in Orgrimmar) and follow the spiral down into the deepest and darkest depths of the cave.
Once you find her, pick up the quest named How Things “Really” Happened, then speak to her again to queue up for three different LFR raids. After you’ve completed a refined three-raid version of The Burning Crusade, the Wrath of the Lich King, and Cataclysm, the Obsidian Worldbreaker will be directly sent to your mailbox
SO yes unique mounts have been given via LfR
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it’s an anniversary mount - it was supposed to be a participation trophy that everyone gets…that’s why it’s in LFR. you could get that thing in like one day - this one requires multiple raids in current content.
I wouldn’t say this is the same thing, would you?
You literally just answered your own statement. The Slime Saber IS a participation trophy. Whether it be tossed on LFR or not. But cutting out one group of raiders from being able to participate in content and get a reward is not presentable at all. Doing a fated LFR there is ZERO participation trophy where all three of the other raid types get participation trophies.
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We already have one time-limited forced-group end of expansion mount, tbh, we don’t need to set a precedent for having multiple.
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Slime saber doesn’t seem like a participation trophy if it’s requiring you to join organized groups and understand basic mechanics. The world breaker is done in a group finder iirc.
maybe we don’t see “participation trophy” as the same thing. 
Ok so if the Deathwing mount wasn’t a participation trophy which:
Here you said it was. Then what was it?
Also the Deathwing mount wasnt an LFR deal. It was a timewalking raid. You could queue up for it like any version of a raid but you still had people who thought they could ignore mechanics which you couldn’t.
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Slime Saber and World Breaker are both similar in that they came from an achievement for doing three raids. Forgot to add that.
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Honest truth , yes I would.
We are not doing any actual new content in season 4 .
This is just to give people something to do while others are in the Alpha and Beta testing DF.
I’m guessing a lot of the higher end players won’t be doing the raids because there is no World First or cutting edge . So why not make it a participation trophy .
ok i’ll just define it.
I think a participation trophy is something that is just given basically freely to someone, without requiring any effort or anything. Just pretty much sign up, get walked through, and you get it. That’s traditionally how Anniversary rewards work - you either log in, or, as in the Obsidian Dragon, just do something at LFR difficulty in one day.
I think the slime saber is a little bit different because you have to know basic mechanics of the fight, because it’s not at LFR difficulty (as of this post), and you have to have an organized team…
That’s why i think they’re different. 
Like i said, i think people that are upset it’s not in LFR are actually in the minority. Maybe not on the forums, but there’s a reddit thread that got lots of traffic reference players wanting to earn new cool rewards for casual content…this is a good medium for that imo
game caters to the very low % already by LFR having its own rewards
The people in this thread are questioning why it CAN’T be in LFR though. You’re not giving a very good reason for why it shouldn’t be available on all difficulties. Why should one group be excluded? As I asked someone else before why are you against Inclusivity?
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It’s not that simple. Alpha/Beta/PTR are for testing bugs and to make sure mechanics are working as intended. What they’re testing here requires people to just play the game and get feedback from customers. They are not going to get the results they want on alpha. If you don’t want to utilize it, that’s fine. Nothing’s changing for you- this is something they added, not subtracted.
it shouldn’t be in lfr because LFR is a joke…you can afk through it.
this is a seasonal reward players can earn.
that’s my reason, i’ve given it several times. you just don’t like it
Except LFR in S4 is Fated and will be subject to the same affixes as Normal, Heroic, and Mythic in S4 Fated raids making it require more organization. Again sounds like you’re against inclusivity to me.
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affixes or not, LFR is a joke that is designed to be fail proof.
you get buffs for wiping? hello?
How is Mike Ybarra and his group of “helpers” supposed to “help” Payers er… players get their money er… mount if just anyone can have this reskin?
Think of the poor Leader of blizzard entertainment! He slaved over a hot code string to give his raid team all the best gear in the game to sell runs! How is he supposed to support his egregious conflict of interest in wow tokens if he can’t change the rules of the game to force you to buy tokens?
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Then go play a game that PTW.