I absolutely am swimming in the hilarity of this.
Ion: "We can’t add a PVP stat, the best gear should come from playing all modes at high level.
Also Ion: “Only Mythic raiding will award top end gear”.
With the current sub numbers sitting around 1.5m, I think this game is about to launch its last expansion. Feels sad man.
I dont think so. But i like the change that blizz made it to make them more equally and reduce the gap of gearing between both, raiders where in disadvantage.
But i dont think that raids should be the only important endgame mode on wow
yes, let the lvl 60 classic player preach to us.
Tough talk from a 9k+ poster. Get out much?
…shrugs. “It’s what they do best.”
Outside of 2 bosses, mythic+, raiding, and PvP all provide the same item level gear at the top.
And this change has nothing to do with the last 2 bosses being higher.
LOL, Ya except in this case, your reply was uninformed, I hit you with common sense.
I could do that with a level 10 Over watch character.
Let me guess, “raid or die” is the new cringy catch phrase for this change? man you people are your phrases…in happy with this change. I miss how wow used to be, before it catered to entitlement attitudes such as OP
? Assuming you only raid heroic right?
If you are a mythic raider this doesn’t really change anything in either direction. Mythic ilvl is still better than this is/will be. The weekly cache is still on par with weekly raid.
So this whole debate boils down to did M+15 negate the need to heroic raid? Should that matter?
The “end-game” is/was/will be mythic raids.
i mean, he has a point. you didnt answer any question he had and instead opted for deflection. your opinion no longer has weight or value.
The first season I think will be rough, but after that I dunno.
The vast amount of important “learning” for mythic+ at the 15 or below level is done upfront. Tweaking a new seasonal affix isn’t the same as learning new dungeons all over again.
Just got in from work and it’s killer trying to keep up with all these threads.
Um no?
A chest, that you get options from from M+ and also from PVP and Raiding, has NOTHING to do with Mythic+ gearing.
M+ does NOT award Mythic level anymore. That chest comes from Mythic Raiding as well.
PVP awarding M ilvl at 2400 is laughable, and the stats are garbage, forcing right back to raiding. That issue has less to do with Ilvl and more so other factors.
Nice dodge, I guess you just can’t help yourself. But continue talking out of your butt, it is mildly amusing.
As for my post count, it is the benefit of being a computer programmer and having access to the net any time I want. Hell it might even surprised you to know there are these things called “smart phones” that let you access the web while you are out and about.
Maybe when you grow up mommy will buy you one 
i heard that line so many times before “wow is dead cause they changed x” but your still here im still here, wow aint dying for balancing a clear inbalance
11 million subs in Wrath.
1.5m in BFA.
You need a reality check.
Let me guess… oh wait i dont need to. You used cringe lol…
Surprised you didnt # something, being so intellectual and all.
End of dungeon loot in mythic+ has never been equal to mythic raid loot item levels.
And the weekly chest is still equal to mythic raid loot item levels (not the last 2 bosses).
So…not sure what you’re saying?
Source?
Ummm 9k? Thats prolly hundreds of hours on here. Thinking you arent paid very well or very good at programming if you can spend that much time on a forum AND play the game lol.
Keep on keeping on though buddy.