Personally I’m glad the accumulation of gear is going to be harder. BFA offered players so much gear that they drowned in it. The result? Gear doesn’t matter. I have a feeling gear will matter more in Shadowlands. Although the whole scaling stuff is pretty silly, especially in PVP - it’s insanity.
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Yep. Blizzard sucks. They’re ruining SL before they even drop pre-patch because they’re dropping stupid changes that they didn’t even have the nerve to test with alpha and beta testers.
I only enjoy M+ now because I was forced to do it after Blizzard completely gutted PvP, now they delete M+ from the game too. Blizzard seriously blows dude the dev team just can’t stop themselves from ruining the game more and more.
WoW has many different ways of engaging with content, real-world, PvP, dungeons, raids, and more, and they want to boss you around and force you to play specific content as they see fit.
The dev team in this game is seriously oblivious, they don’t understand why people choose WoW over market competitors like League, DOTA, SWtOR, RuneScape, and all the others… WoW was originally fun because of the freedom of choice you had with how you played your character. The dev team COMPLETELY does not understand this because they’re honestly idiots, and the design that they have for how you engage with SL is just how they want to play it because they’re nolife video gamers. They probably love raiding, so you have to also or WoW is not as enjoyable to you.
There’s seriously no reason for this change, they’re only doing it because they have a poor direction in mind for this game and they don’t understand why WoW has historically held appeal to their player-base. SWtOR is getting more and more fun, and I’ve been playing that throughout the end of BfA since this expansion has been a boring disgrace and poorly designed failure, so I guess I’ll just keep my characters on that game up-to-date for 2 months in to Shadowlands when I finally accept that this dev team destroyed the 16 year legacy of WoW. ./endrant
Not really. A group of people who know what they’re doing with gear, corruption, traits and essences will blow through either with pretty much no resistance. A group of people that dont know what they’re doing will struggle with either. Right now keys dont even get hard till about 19 or 20 depending on the affixes and dungeon.
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The OP’s point is that it’s still bad that SL is just a continuation of BFA.
And it’s funny because the community keeps telling Blizzard that PvP stats, tier sets, reforging, etc- all these older solutions that worked, would solve a lot of the currently problems.
But like a drunk, genx wine mom, Blizz doesn’t want to hear about solutions- they just want us to shut up.
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So you didn’t raid the first few weeks so didn’t have to flesh out the mechanics. Like I said - you just got carried.
Go back to your (see how I used the right version?) Classic because it’s you who provided nothing of value. You seem to think M+ deserves better loot but cant really explain why since you seem to think Nzoth on heroic is easy and M+15 is easy - literally adding nothing to the conversation.
Still not posting on your retail main so still guessing you aren’t “always in the top 3” and not getting carried.
Lol.
Do you not play retail? By the time I stepped foot in the raid I was pretty close to 460…
Flesh out the mechanics. Dude you are making yourself sound like not a raider or a very bad player.
There is no mechanics in Herioc to flesh out. The Dungeon Journal DBM and Fatboss will tell you everything you need to know…
Your really going to sit there and pretend like herioc is hard…
Let’s be honest here.
Your mad about M+ loot because your 12/12m and 479 and I am 0/12 Mythic and 477. Thats your real issue.
You obviously aren’t very good about BiS because you would know ilvl means very little in this game. I could easily wear all 475s with my 485 ring and boots to be higher ilvl but ilvl is a joke and it’s about stats.
I guess someone who got carried in heroic wouldn’t understand that.
It’s funny that you are taking about how “easy” it was showing up in heroic ilvl gear. Guess you just proved the point about why they’re nerfing M+.
Oh and keep talking without posting on your retail main. You’re so Bad that it’s kind of sad.
-holds mug to your face- yis gib tears.
The change was good. Get over it.
If the game goes raid and die. It is fine. We got other MMO options out now. This will kill World of Warcraft faster than any new systems they add.
That is a fact.
I meant 477 BiS bud.
Something you don’t even have on your 479 gear lol.
Same could be said for heroic raiding right now. 15s still require more.
People who only enjoy m+. -can continue farming m+
People who only enjoy raiding. -can continue only doing 1 m+ a week
People who only enjoy pvping. -can continue only pvping
Whats the issue here?
They want their Mythic ready level loot all in one week. All the “M+ is dying” crowd don’t understand that across the board loot quantity is reduced. Blizz has said that to get the best/most gear you will want to participate in all 3 fields of play (M+, raiding, PvP). But the M+ only crowd will cry until the end of days for something they haven’t even experienced yet.
Mythic+ -> Still exists.
Mythic+ Loot Train -> Still exists.
Mythic+ was giving 5 ilvls higher than Heroic (465 opposed to 460?) and a Mythic ilvl gear in weekly chest (+15). People who didn’t even deserve 475 gear still got it (Not timing a +15 or +16 but getting a 475 consolation chest).
You still have the loot train which raiders don’t have.
You don’t have lockout restrictions which raiders have.
You don’t have a limit to loot which raiders have.
You’re sad because the ilvl went down? It’s stupid easy to gear up in Mythic+.
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Mythic+ was only created to keep dungeons relevant throughout the expansion anyways. Raiding has ALWAYS been the core to WoW ever since Molten Core was released.
Devs have decided that they don’t want people playing the game who don’t raid. That’s what raid or die is. Lots of people will take the hint and stop playing. This will overall increase the percentage of raiders, which I’m sure they’ll report, while decreasing the number of subscribers, a secret number that is so embarrassing they never tell anyone.
I mean take a look at my character. I have a Mythic 10 480 helmet that is on par if not better than most Heroic raiding gear. In fact a lot of my gear is M+ gear that is better than Heroic raiding gear. It’s kinda sad.
People are going to quit over a ilvl decrease when they can still get unlimited ez mode loot from Mythic+?
Really? I mean…really? You literally get a consolation chest at the end of the week whether you beat the timer or not.
How is this bad?
I wouldn’t mind it being better but the fact that Mythic+ is a unlimited loot train compared to raiding is what’s really unfair.
People wouldn’t quit over ilvls. They would quit if they brought raid lockouts to Mythic+.
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