Like why does this system even exist still? how hard is it for them to use Loot lock? This does nothing but make finding groups harder since players are gonna get even more gatekeepy about who they’re taking for a raid that takes make 2 more braincells on the final fight 
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Because selling carries is degenerate, and it’s exactly what would happen if it was Loot lockout instead of Raid lockout.
(And also probably because the base game architecture wouldn’t support it.)
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the 2nd part I could understand but they said SoD did so well they got a bigger budget and solid focus they can engineer this system in, thats their job but boosts will always happen but they are so small that blizzard could probably ban but all it does is kill pugging for players who may not have the time and schedule to log in and wait 3-4 hrs to finally get into a run if they arent meta ( I woud know it took me 2 hours to even get accepted into a run as a rogue DPS ) The current state of SoDs endgame will kill it if they dont find a way to normalize this
If they can ban GDKPS without just removing raiding I’m sure they can manage to ban selling carries with a per-boss modern loot locking system.
Classic is built in the modern engine. The loot lockout system is probably mostly a server configuration change. Retail has both raidID for mythic raids and uses per-boss loot lockout for everything else.
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Considering that the gold (or even RMT) can be exchanged outside the raid, I’m not sure how they’d track it…
Yet they can’t adjust the weapon imbue times on Shaman weapons. (Which tells me there’s some hardcode involved.)
Id play more, meet more ppl, and enjoy this game more if lockouts didnt exist. Did blizzard really have a panel of folks say “HEY GUYS! lets lock out paying customers from the 1 main thing they wanna do thats gonna be meaningless in a few months…” /rollseyes
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In terms of RMT outside of the game vs. buying it in-game via gold, you may not be able to ever completely stop that, but that’s really not a good reason not to improve the raiding system for everyone else.
Not sure why you think they can’t just because they haven’t. They absolutely could. They already changed the mana cost and duration of the buffs of every buffing class in the game except for shaman.
Because they datamined the book for extending the weapon imbue times, and the tooltip actually said “DOES NOT WORK”
I’m hoping they figure it out for P3, but there are some things that are hard-coded in Classic, raid IDs might be one of them.
IDK, something something Classic, maybe?
Such that characters who have killed bosses previously during that lockout period would still be able to enter fresh raids, but not be eligible to loot or receive traded loot from those bosses?
What do you mean by “how hard?” How hard is an average differential calculus problem?
I mean it certainly does more than this…
It seems like you’re using some sort of “blame” to give a suggestion, and I don’t think it’s a very well thought out one, but cool, thanks for sharing your opinions.
That’s interesting, I never saw that before. When the wowhead datamine of QoL books first came out there was always only one for shaman that I saw.
I see the actual passive is still there so maybe they’re still trying to figure it out:
I hope so… 5 minute imbues is kinda… LAME. lol
(Nothing like having to refresh imbues on Mekk when the fights takes a few minutes.)
Yo I wonder how hard it must be to breathe when you’re constantly sniffing your farts? and to even retort to whatever those responses were, the idea of how hard is it for them to implement something like that. Which I would bet is actually doable they just dont think its worth the time/effort more than likely
People would sell carries (it happens in retail). More avenues for RTM to launder dirty gold.
Also I’m sure they would have to change loot drops, as in if there were x amount of players already loot locked then the amount of loot dropped would have to be lowered or something along those lines. I think the boss loot table is already low like 2 drops per boss with the exception of epic pieces. Still 1 drop if more than 5 people are already loot locked isnt very good, I would for sure stay away from those groups. That would also be a good opportunity for other people to grief players come to think about it.
I wish after lockout I could help my friends clear and not get loot. Queue up the paid carries though. 
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I couldn’t give a single fig if people sold carries, raid lockouts are cancer and are the single worst thing about raiding.
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You are eligible to loot each boss in the raid once per week. Apart from that, there are no restrictions on which groups you can join and which instances you can enter.
People can sell carries in raids with lockouts too. I am not sure what you think raid lockouts do to prevent this.
You can still only loot the boss once per week, whether there is a raid ID or not.
The “carries” that people sell in Heroic raids in retail are mostly just for the AOTC title. The real carries happen in mythic raids, which still have raid IDs, just like classic.
That’s fine, but imagine being able to do it multiple times in a single lockout. I’m not saying selling your one lockout to people that want to pay for it is bad, being able to do it however many times you want per lock out is bad.
I still couldn’t care less if a tiny fraction of people want to spend their time doing that. Removing raid lockouts would be a huge improvement for the other 99% of players.
This kind of attitude reminds me of Thatcher’s speech to British parliament in the 1980s
“You’d rather have the poor poorer, as long as the rich are less rich”.
Im not saying you’re wrong or anything, all I’m trying to say is this could potentially open up a new way for gold sellers to bring more bot gold into the game seeing that gdkp has been banned and we all know that is something blizzard is trying to avoid.
Idk why you have to get so upset at one persons post man, it’s just a game why do you have to be mad?
Leave your political remarks to yourself, this has nothing to do with the topic.