And because you’re fighting “Deathwing” in both encounters it’s why Spine and Madness drops superior loot.
Are you not going to talk about this.
Again you’re not understanding so I’ll spell it out even further. Yes, they’re two seperate encounters and two seperate entities. However, both of them are Deathwing.
Spine of Deathwing
Madness of Deathwing
See how both encounters have Deathwing in the name? That’s why I’m saying they’re the same and why those two encounters have superior loot than the other encounters in Dragon Soul. Again, it’s two encounters and two entities but the same boss called Deathwing who’s the big bad of not only the raid tier but the expansion
The only items that are of superior quality from Ulduar and TotGC are 1-2 items from the hardmodes from each boss that has a hardmode (including Yogg 0 lights and Algalon). TotGC didn’t have any heroic items put into a vendor every single item added was from normal 25 man.
Ulduar 10 man loot though had all hardmode loot added to the Sidereal Essence vendor but is outclassed by 25 man loot.
If they added all of the heroic loot then yeah you’d be right but I highly doubt that they’d add all of the heroic gear onto the vendor.
The Fissure Stone Fragment Vendor sells...
BoT
Vendor
total
Halfus
3
12
Twin Drag
1
12
Council
0
12
Cho’gal
2
13
Sinestra
13
13
19/62 of the items from BoT are on the vendor and are heroic Ilvl
BWD
Vendor
total
Defense Sys
1
12
Magmaw
2
12
Atra
2
12
Chimeron
4
12
Maloriak
0
12
Nef
9
13
18/73 of the items from BWD are on the vendor and are heroic Ilvl
TotFW
Vendor
total
Council
11
11
Al’Akir
17
17
28/28 of the items from TotFW are on the vendor and are heroic Ilvl
65 out of the 163 available heroic items from the P1 raids are on the Fissure Stone Fragment vendor so roughly 40% of the heroic items are on the vendor and just so you’re aware, none of those items are heroic weapons and any weapons that are on the vendor are of normal quality.
You see that’s why I said on average because you’re looking through a pure heroic lens, something that Blizzard won’t do (as proven above) so the real range is Firelands 378 - 397 compared to Dragon Souls 384 - 390. Actually looking at it now it might actually be pretty close to the same Ilvl (again this is on average).
LFR is needed specifically for the legendary cloak? Does it need to be done in LFR and not in Normal/Heroic? Pretty sure that’s not the main use of LFR.
I honestly find it funny that you ignored me talking about the heroic item vendor
All I see from that toxic elitist is, “No!!! Players are getting inferior tier gear from LFR!!!”
Such gatekeeping is so weird. Can you imagine caring that much that other players experience content and get some rewards? Even much worse than what you’re getting?
Yeah, says there’s no point in adding it but is fine with it being added in MoP because there’s no point at the moment even though the points have been provided. He just likes to ignore points that are made when there’s nowhere left to maneuver which is probably why he only responded to me calling Spine/Madness of Deathwing the same boss amd as the explaination for them dropping superior items and not the massive reply about heroic/Ulduar and TotGC items on the vendor.
That doesn’t make sense. If his argument is that it’s not needed because of Mythic dungeons…does he really think there won’t be Mythic dungeons in MoP? Of course there will be. There shouldn’t be, but the Classic team needs something to hang their hat on and say, “We did that!!”
Like lfr it doesn’t really matter much to me if there’s mythic dungeons. But there has to be a reason they were added. Most likely blizzard has sufficient data from retail that they are popular, so they added them to classic. And there was sufficient data that they’re popular in classic so they’ll keep adding them.
Its more gear chances. those not in the top 5 of the ML list like something to do to get better for like 8 weeks. And thats me being nice, desired items are well over 50% drop rate.
And in the redo’s some were going heroic, ain’t so heroic as they remember. One hopes 15 years later, they got better in gaming lol.
I personally break up 80 to 82 and run this RDF (it sees them till like 82). Makes it interesting before its death by BRC spam. Only fun you get there is seeing how many die like muppets thinking they can muscle the ogre before he AOE’s.
Because they are wrong and ive proven that time and time again. With facts.
First off there are NO mythic Dungeons in Cata classic.
Why would there be? Blizz is going to add LFR in MoP no need to add heroic + dungeons as a catch up.
This is not “gatekeeping” There is normal go do normal raids. Not having LFR in Cata does not impead your ability or not allow you access to something in the game that is needed to complete the content like in MoP, With the legendary back.
Blizz listens to the community, as long as it has the potential to increase their profits. Adding LFR appeals to casuals who make up the bulk of the income for Blizz and will result in more income than leaving it out.
Yep. I liked it for pvp focused play in later wow.
SL put memorie i needed here. I logged into run BG’s, not mythic dungeon M0 to M5 and maybe even M10 (for the crews who like overgear alot) to get gear to run normal raid.
I wasn’t going to work up a pro pve set of gear. Even for my classes versality was a higher priority stat…pvp gear was hated. even the conqueror pieces.
So I took the LFR hero route. Where yes you see some “great” gameplay. Nice thing about coming into lfr with pvp focus is we know basic wow rules. and maxed out sl pvp gear was also better than LFR imo.
PVP gear works in lfr because pvp can tend to “not stand in fire”. Blood dk in pvp would love for you to stand in DnD and hammer on them. We try to get them out of that when grip is on cd. Bosses putting poop on the floor, same concept.
And we know what LOS is. If you can’t close on ranged, find a wall/collumn. So we know to do LOS crap for boss mechanics this is the solution too.
