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Why? What does it hurt to give players options?

Except for those people who haven’t had the opportunity to raid due to time constraints where they can’t dedicate long stretches of time in order to queue, get denied because they aren’t heroic raid geared, requeue, repeat many times, then maybe… by some miracle… get accepted into a raid that will take 2-3 more hours to complete.

Why do you hate casuals so much? You do realize that they make up the bulk of the player base and keep the servers on, right? Does someone getting to experience LFR / raiding somehow hurt you?

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Consider joining a guild where the raid times fit your schedule, register for a GDKP, or sign up for runs advertised on Discord. You have various options; however, it seems you’ve opted to perceive yourself as a victim. Remember, the repercussions you face stem from the choices you make.

I was referring to the legendary cloak that is required for the raids in MoP. There is nothing that is required to complete any raids in Cata. No specific item is needed to clear the raids. Therefore, not having LFR does not affect the end game.

I never said i did i said they have normal raids that are easily accessible.

You also do realize that they still clear content and have been doing so for the last 5 years without LFR.

To many options affects the game.

Again, time constraints may limit some people from committing to several hours a week to raid in a guild. At best, GDKP or Discord raids would still take hours to complete. LFR gives a broken up version of the raid where people can spare an hour or so and experience that content. For many, without LFR, the choice is: sacrifice other responsibilities in life, or don’t raid. With LFR, they can have both.

Normal raids take hours. See above: some people can’t dedicate hours each week for guild raiding. LFG normals take hours just to get into one if you aren’t overgeared / meta.

Because all players who are currently doing Cata have been playing for the last 5 years… no possibility of getting some new players coming from other games / retail…

Does adding LFR mean that you can’t run with a guild? Does LFR mean that heroics are now removed from the game? Does having LFR in any way remove content from the game? Are you being forced to run LFR if they add it?

Providing options for all types of players makes the game more popular. More players = more possibilities. More players = more money for Blizz and encourages them to keep classic servers going.

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That’s precisely why I suggested joining a guild that permits this! Again, your choices have repercussions.

Thats the game you choose to play!!! Dont like it then dont play!! Stop making your problems everyone else’s.

Thats what the game is BASED OFF of THO!!! Again your choices = your own outcome.

it does if it saves you to the raid. Like it should. If it doesn’t then it forces people to do LFR for those certain peices of gear to help with prog and guilds would run guild runs and need on all the loot and distro to there roster.

There’s literally one person who’s against LFR, and it’s hysterical. Imagine being so committed to gatekeeping other players you spam the forums about it all day long.

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And adding LFR gives players more choices. If you have more choices, you are more likely to find one that is best for you.

Adding it doesn’t take some other choice away.

Don’t like LFR, don’t play LFR. Stop restricting other players because of your gatekeeping.

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it doesnt need to be add in cata because it caters to you and some others majority of the players dont want it

Looking at this and the other LFR threads… I’m thinking the majority DO want it. Only a handful of people seem to really be opposed to it.

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Lol the what 5 players who post on fourms thats is where you are getting your info not from the thousands of players who dont?

That is not a valid reason. Just admit that you’re mad that feral is not getting buffs and you’re trying to make everyone else miserable.

I have already previously explained why that is not a valid argument. Go cry about feral to your parents and stop ruining everyone else’s fun.

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Not all. Again, my own father, a casual, hasn’t been able to because he doesn’t have the time to schedule. You are just a miserable elitist and hate casuals.

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Lol saying something is not valid because you dont feel like it is does not make it not valid. the point has been proven to hold validity.

If this right here is how you explain. Guess what.

That does not constitute an explanation; it is merely an expression of your feelings.

I have given reasons. Can’t wait until DS where we get it and you cry.

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Lol and those reasons where debunked hense why you said

which was also debunked as being an explanation. Just because you are bad and need to be carried threw normal raids does not mean that LFR needs to be released in cata. Just wait till mop if you wanna do LFR.

LMAO you never debunked anything, cope harder.

More cope. How’s that cherrypicking data going? Still mad that feral is better than arcane while you do less than someone playing arcane?

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Just go back to era if you don’t want LFR.

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Let’s go back for a moment.

I said;

Which was my argument that scheduling isn’t possible for everyone.

You replied with;

Which was an ad hominem attack on my skill, not a debunk of my argument.

In conclusion, you never debunked anything, you just resorted to attacking me because you knew there was no rebuttal to my objectively correct point.

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LFR is unnecessary as it would be the third option for catch-up gear.

  1. Infernos provide currency to purchase Heroic Firelands loot ranging from 391-397 item level, while LFR drops 381-390 item level loot.
  2. The two 5-man dungeons releasing with Dragon Soul,
    2a. The Well of Eternity drop’s 391-397 and
    2b. The Hour of Twilight, drop’s 381-390 item level loot
    There are no items locked behind a quest chain that requires raiding to complete end-game content as in MOP, which is why LFR is not needed.

The argument that people don’t have time to raid can be addressed by finding a guild with a raid schedule that fits your personal schedule. If that’s not an option, then joining a Discord community with set raid times is a viable alternative. Choosing to play the victim instead of seeking a solution is unproductive. People have been completing raids for over five years without LFR, and the absence of LFR in the final phase of Cataclysm will not change that.

As previously stated, this is not about gear, this is about access to CONTENT. Your argument is invalid in this context, stop spamming the same debunked garbage.

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Invalid, as it does not pertain to Cataclysm Classic on the Dragon Soul phase.

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