It’s not exactly easy to find groups for dungeons on mega servers either. People all ready did the content months ago. There is little reason to go back once you all ready have access to better gear.
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It doesn’t matter. It’s clearly not healthy for the playerbase the have like 70% of guilds unable to full clear.
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OG vanilla and tbc playerbase did nothing but grow
TBCC is just filled with LFRs that got filtered
Yes and in the og version content was nerfed as well
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am i missing something?
You guys have 1 Vashj kill, that you just recently got and you did it with 5 melee. I’m not trying to shame you at all, but you are basically lying to disagree with me about this while your guild is clearly experiencing the same thing.
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You could argue having to re clear and get your guild more upgrades is better for the progression. If you come in with good comps and cc, the trash can be cleared quickly. Even if you only raid two nights, you could just do one of the two until you got your kill and trash wouldn’t be that much of an issues.
Also lookin at your guilds logs at a glance and it’s clear people don’t come prepared. You guys have people missing food buffs, flasks etc. Yall don’t need an extended lockout, you need focus.
Thanks for not nerfing the bosses right now.
If you plan to nerf those bosses, at least release Hyjal now.
This x1000.
Stop neglecting your servers, Blizzard. DO SOMETHING other than rake in transfer $$ from the problems you allowed to fester.
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I think the Vashj change is good, but the changes to the other two bosses trivialize them. The Vashj change doesn’t trivialize her. Not sure why you would do a huge nerf to two bosses and slight nerf to the most difficult boss.
I know in Classic Blizzard probably doesn’t want to do a lot of fight tuning, but why not reduce the health of the advisors by 10-20% rather than the full nerf. Maybe do the same for tidewalker murlocs? No need to go full nerf bat.
KT does not need to be nerfed prior to phase 3.
Vashj however could use the mind control to be able to be crowd controlled. This is the only minor change that should happen prior to phase 3. This takes out the rng of a healer getting MC and healing the boss for insane amounts.
I think you can do this change next reset and it should be recieved well by the community. The difficulty of these bosses is a nice challenge but after getting to phase 3 vashj and bad rng wipes you its about time we implement a small change.
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we brought 2 rogues (7 melee), 2 new players and still killed vashj and KT. We had some stupid wipes on vashj but figured it out
Dude, it’s been 2 months. So sad that the first time we get bosses that pose a real challenge in classic, babies have to have it nerfed because they can’t finish the content in a matter of weeks. Raid tiers are measured in months. Being “unable” to full clear after 2 months is meaningless.
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Nerf the bosses.
Keep them un-nerfed and even buff them when you get to season of mastery TBC.
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Bads have to wait until next phase to faceroll.
It’s a 16 year old game bud this isn’t new content. It’s just obviously harder than the majority of players can handle if you take a simple look at the logs. It doesn’t matter how you feel about difficulty when it drives players away from the game ultimately creating a worse experience for everyone including the people who are clearing easily.
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Not being 10/10 after 2 months does not mean they can’t be 10/10. Raid tiers are supposed to take a long time to clear. I’m glad Blizzard is considering not ruining these bosses yet.
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While I agree with this, I’m wondering if raid comp is holding a lot of guilds back. Content is still pretty tough (well I guess just Vashj and Kael) with close to ideal raid comps. If the compromise to keep the challenge for more hardcore guilds is to nerf content mid-phase, I’m not hugely against it for this reason. When they do it will never please everyone.
Alternatively they could never nerf it, but I do feel a bit bad for guilds that can’t at least 3 shaman and spriest in their roster.
what you said would be true if this was not a 16 year old game. This is not new raid content. People fully cleared on day 1 man. That would not be possible with an actual new raid.
Also I never said those guilds wouldn’t eventually get 10/10, some would. But a lot will also just disband and quit. That’s bad for the game and bad for business.
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This thread is another shining example of why Blizzard doesn’t want to communicate with us.
You guys didn’t even try to discuss you went full in on nerd rage. It’s embarrassing at this point.
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I understand but the better than yous with a scuffed raid guild or server would like sooner 
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