I thought there used to be nothing to Ardenweald except for Marasmius before the Winter Queen came along and made a forest out of it? I’m pretty sure nothing about Ardenweald is actually natural, despite it being the nature zone.
It isn’t clear what Ardenweald was but being a land of Marasmius and his Fungul Children still makes it natural, even if the Forest as it is today is more cultivated. All the Realms seam to have pre-existing life before the advent of the Purpose. Though that is only a guess since it would otherwise mean that all life there are transplants or evolved there after the fact
Kaileena there’s an undead lady running around who was raised with Holy magic. Not to mention there are already playable undead nature magic users. I get Monks technically use spirit magic but you’re still splitting into three elemental spirits, conjuring the avatars of wild gods to aid you, and healing people with green leafy water magic.
That’s blatantly contradicted by Draenor who join the Legion as recently as Warlords of Draenor.
Race identity will be the same. More options doesn’t even mean more characters have to represent them in the lore. You’re still playing your character. When Orcs got mages, we didn’t start seeing tons of Orc mages in lore.
You just wait… the forsaken are going to be blessed by Elune too, because she got it on with king toadstool, and they had a Lunar-fungal demi-god together that will be revered by the Forsaken. They’re gonna cast Moonfire and Starfall on any Night Elf that doubts them.
What they need to do, is take things like Tauren paladins, keep the mechanics if that’s necessary, but re-name and re-skin the class and it’s abilities entirely. No glyphs required.
I think I’d be okay if the undead got druid mechanics in an alchemist type of class. But I think the Forsaken practicing anything that looks like Cenarion druidism would just be dumb.
SWTOR does that thing where all the classes of one side are cookie cutter copies of the other side- I hate it, but it is way better than… if Blizzard made SWTOR, the jedi and sith would be exactly the same, and look exactly the same too.
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If anything this only provides more substantial reasoning for my position. The Dreanei in the Alliance have seen and gone through way too much to ever align themselves with the fel. Mind you in WoD the genocide of the Dreanei at the hands of the Legion and the Orcs had yet to happen.
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NO MORE RESTRICTIONS!
I want my High Elf Shaman with Second Life customization fighting for the Horde so I can look cool winning a round in Fortnite on my PS3.
The Draenei who turn to Fel stand abjectly against this idea. Beyond moving the goalpost from ‘no Draenei’ to ‘Draenei in the Alliance’. Your opinion doesn’t line up.
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Night Elves - Shamans acceptable through Fandral’s Fire Druids?
My opinion lines up just fine and I didn’t move the goal post. As I originally stated, after everything the Dreanei have gone through with the Legion which INCLUDES the events of Dreanor, because those who survived are and escaped are members of the Alliance, or the Aldor, or the Shattered Sun Offensive, or the Army of Light and they would not turn to the fel. Furthermore we’re talking about the idea of there being playable Dreanei warlock. I didn’t realize there were any other playable Dreanei then those in the Alliance.
Lastly the Dreanei in WoD lived through series of events and as such is a complete alternate reality with obviously different series events.
Your opinion is not lore, plain and simple. And your change of wording is outright an adjusted statement.
But I can forgive that and address the new one. Because neither is more defendable.
If Blizzard says they would, they would. Both follow. There are still traitors after 25,000 years, some would possibly be down to use fel.
‘25,000 years of running, some still turned to fel, but 10 more years? 100% no!’ That’s silly.
The distinction is irrelevant.
As far as we know, said events were essentially the same. Even in our timeline, that happened. The Sargerai were a thing we see in Burning Crusade.
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Wait a sec - is that a Minotaur King from Heores of Might and Magic 3?
Good to see another man of culture.
Oh, I dunno. I just googled “minotaur paladin” and found that. Looking up the minotaur king, it looks a bit like it but I don’t think it’s meant to be the same.
Googling for THAT resulted in a lot of Asterius fanart from Hades, though.
…A lot.
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I didn’t realize I said it was. 
And until they do it’s not happening. So there goes that. They are defined by the Light and until Blizz changes that, it stands.
It’s entirely relevant. As I said we’re taking about the playable Dreanei warlocks. That would be Alliance aligned Dreanei or those that are close to them such as the members of the aldor or Shattered Sun Offensive. Yes The Sargerai existed, in both Wod and the main universe but like I said at the very beginning…
they’ve seen and gone through too much. The traitors on Argus, the Sargerai, and the final invasion of the Legion only further supports that, until it’s changed in the lore.
Nobody said you did.
That’s true of everything. That’s a nonstatement.
You realize the conversation is about adding things?
That said, as was noted, we have Draenei not following that path. Which is the very contention. We already have examples of relatively recent Warlocks, but also Shaman and Shadow Priests.
Playable Draenei Warlocks could easily be some third party group that is only now joining the Alliance.
‘25,000 years of running, some still turned to fel, but 10 more years? 100% no!’ That’s silly. Not like it has stopped Void use.
The opposite is supported. The fact so many are drawn to fel makes it more reasonable it might happen when the risk is an all time low since the Legion is defeated. For some reason, history shows their people tempted by fel.
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Or younger Night Elves training from them.
But you did imply it.
Then why even bring up the point about Blizz changing anything if they want to? We all know that already. It doesn’t need saying.
And that addition would probably require some lore changes or additions, like what Hawthorne with the additions of Troll druids in Cata.
I believe that was due to D’ore entering the void stage during it’s time at Auchindoun. It did later show up and redeem Maladaar.
Look what’s happened in those 10 years. A return to Dreanor, a demon incursion on the Exodar killing who knows how many, a return to their home world only to find out wrecked by the fel, and the final defeat of the Legion. Why open that door again? To make that make sense new lore would need to be added.
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Only as much as you implied your opinion was lore.
Because the discussion is about whether they’ll remain without playable Warlocks or have them. You’re the one who tried to definitely say ‘they would not turn to Fel’.
I don’t think it would be required, but Blizzard might do so, sure.
Ultimately it is still a practice.
Which is still what, far below 1% of their fleeing history?
Young Draenei who think it is a good idea with the threat gone. Tempted, seeing how strong their misguided ancestors were. Why does anyone become a Warlock? An elf becoming a demon hunter. A blood elf becoming a death knight. A night elf becoming a mage. Wanting to use power.
Sure dear… and Calia Menethil says “Hi”. Or Lucan Foxblood. Or any other lore breaking abomination we get to see madse by BLIZZARD THEMSELVES!!!
The integrity of a race frankly seems to be the least important aspect for the writers of this game, and as long as this contine to roll under the “RuLe Of CoOl”, it will continue to degrade until no race has an identity of it´s own and all become clones of each other.
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Obviously only humans should get to be any class.