Draenei Warlocks and Undead Shamans when? Give us goat leg guys and no demonic powers to go with? And Undead should be able to get any class except paladin since former lives they were all things. And Shadow priests with the void and Shadow abilities needs to be its own class not linked to some holy crap. Don’t see why limitations are even a thing now there are so many other lorefully wrong race class combos
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As much as I wish they’d loosen up the restrictions more (the faction/race/class combos I’d actually find appealing enough to main don’t even exist), Blizzard was asked about adding more of them in the last Blizzcon and they still haven’t budged.
It’s a little weird because the way monks get spread around seems to fly in the face of why other races wouldn’t start picking up other things, but apparently tapping into your inner chi or whatever is just inherently so easy that anybody can start doing it the moment most races become playable. So far, I think the only unifying theme about its remaining restrictions is the assumption that you would have already devoted yourself to a certain type of training in your level 1 character’s starting zone, leaving worgen/goblin/LF Draenei (but not regular ones or blood elves?) out cold. But even that can be handwaved away with the new shared starting zone.
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I’m generally for all Race-Class combos being a thing, the restrictions kinda ignore how players are individuals and all.
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Well, after official lore abominations like Calia Menethil I guess trying to keep at least a modicum of lore integrity was thrown out of the proverbial window… personally I´d hardly ever roll any blantantly ridiculous class/race combo like the mentioned above, but I guess if Blizzard can´t care themselves over the integrity of their story then who are we to get in the way of other player´s enjoyment?
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In all seriousness tho, if all restrictions were lifted, we’d be seeing a lot of bull like Lightforged Warlocks and I don’t think I’m ready for that.
Sure, you can explain some of those combos away with obscure lore, but those are supposed to be fringe cases. They can’t be a fringe case when there’s 15 of them idling in capitals.
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Restrictions define a race too. I don’t want to see a plague of Night Elf Edgelord Warlocks.
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I’d say it defines them when you actually see NPCs as that class. I can’t think of any human hunters - I default to Nathanos, which is telling in and of itself.
On the other side, I would certainly say tauren getting priests and paladin have been the most ‘out there’ as new classes go, and that has categorically not shaped tauren as a whole. Perhaps that’s because tauren are irrelevant and who cares about tauren.
Regardless, #teamnorestrictions. Let me be an orc druid or a human shaman, damnit.
If we had gotten playable broken / krokul, I could have saw this being a thing. But straight Draenei Warlock seems highly unlikely with how they’ve been portrayed.
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I don’t get the restrictions, we’re (very uncommon, chosen one tier whatever) individuals, not the average of our race.
And I don’t get how seeing a lightforged warlock, void elf paladin or undead druid would seriously upset people more than seeing any of the aforementioned races in mogs that look like it, while holding a fish and a beer mug as weapons.
I seriously do not understand, at this point what possible pro is there to limiting choice, other than blizzard not having to work on a few druid forms and totems.
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I think we’re getting close to the point where it would make sense to remove most restrictions from the primary races, with just a couple exceptions, and then let the Allied Races remain more restricted since they haven’t been integrated as long and are thematically more limited.
Barring that, I’d definitely like to see the flavor of cultural exchange. The last time restrictions were lifted, the new classes were largely -not- the result of learning from their allies. Tauren got Sunwalkers, Trolls got Druids that had always been hidden away, Dwarven Shaman were Wildhammers and Night Elf mages were Highborne returning.
I want to see Orcs learning how to wield the Light from Blood Elves and Blood Elves getting to tap into Shamanism in return. Humans learning to be Druids from the Worgen and Night Elf refugees, and in return possibly some of those refugees converting to the Church of Holy Light and becoming paladins. Tauren Mages finally getting the Mage class universal because some Forsaken finally got it through the Bull’s heads how to use magic.
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Barring a few justifiable exceptions I’m against lifting the restrictions. Draenei/Night Elf Warlocks and other edgy lore shattering garbage like that make me want to vomit.
But it’s also Blizzard and their story team shatters the lore every time they put pen to paper in some sad attempt to prove their better at fleshing out Metzen’s world than he was. So at this point if they caved and lifted all the restrictions I wouldn’t even be surprised. It would just be another reason to never play retail again.
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Faepact Warlock glyph skin to replace the demons with forest creatures (fairy dragon for imp, furbolg for voidwalker, etc.) and recolor the curses to look like poisons or clouds of acid summoned from the earth.
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Sounds awesome but sadly WoW isn’t DnD.
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We see Undead Paladins amongst the Scarlet Risen. So we could just say the Forsaken absorb them into their ranks.
And as for Shaman - every race should be able to be one. The Goblins just bargain with the elements and its not like they’ve the only merchants in game.
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If anything, I think the real limiting the factor is Legion’s warlock order hall, not that it can’t be done because it’s too DnD-like. Nothing wrong with adapting stuff from its roots to put WoW’s own spin on concepts.
But it might be easy for me to say that because I spend a lot of time as arcane, which is basically “The DnD wizard spec” as far as theme goes.
I had a similar fan idea of tauren mages being a mix of runemasters and astrologers, pulling from the sun (An’she / fire), moon (Muusha / frost) and stars (all-encompassing earthmother(?) / arcane) as a different way to spin that class, if the orcish method of “the forsaken taught them” is somehow a bridge too far.
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Sorry but the restrictions need to stay right where they are.
After everything they’ve suffered at hands of the Legion and it’s demon hordes, no Draenei would want anything to do with demons.
And the undead are an affront against nature and the elements.
This is why the restrictions need to remain in place. Lifting them will throw a monkey wrench in the lore and destroys race identity. Some of the playable races like humans could easily get away with a wider variety of classes that won’t cause lore conflict, but others like, the elves, Forsaken, Dreanei, and Tauren would see the new classes clash with their lore and racial identity.
What I am for is tailoring the classes to the specific race that uses them though glyphs and maybe armor appearances. Beyond that the restrictions should remain.
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When I said that I didn’t mean that making WoW more DnD like would be a negative thing. DnD’s lore is crazy and yet it’s more concrete and makes more sense than WoW’s has for the last decade.
I said that because we can’t even expect them to put into the effort to properly flavor the current race/class combinations and another example from Legion for that is the Paladin Order Hall.
Paladin Order Hall turned every race that isn’t a Human into just a Human Paladin cosplaying as other races and it also made me give up on ever wanting proper playable Kaldorei Moon Knights.
If I wanted purple humans I’d back into Moon Guard and hang out in the Mage Quater of Stormwind.
That’s fair. I remember people complaining about that as far as tauren paladins were concerned.
Admittedly I have a selfish point of view on the subject though, because like I wrote above, I’ve never had an available race/class combo I like to main. So it always bums me out a bit when the suggestion gets pushback because what I basically read out of it is “here are lore reasons why you can’t play something you’d be happy with.” 
Kinda reminds me of when a friend tried to get me into Everquest way back when, and I think I complained because I thought Iksar sounded cool but they couldn’t be some class I wanted to play. Wizard, I think? (Not that I ever got to play; my computer was too awful back then)
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Honestly I do think it’s as easy as saying
“That’s not a Draenei Warlock, she’s a Daemon Jailor”, and so on.