I dunno, people that avoid servers because this person or that group are playing on them are way too paranoid. I couldn’t care less if there are streamers on my server. How does that in any way affect my enjoyment of the game? People need to let that crap go and just play.
It’s not the streamers (mostly), it’s their fans. Hundreds of fans following one streamer into a city can crash a server, among other game related problems.
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I didn’t know making 7.5 billion dollars made a company prescient.
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They told you all already. You won’t be happy with the que’s on the most populated servers.
You agree that you won’t be happy otherwise you wouldn’t be so worked up over it.
A solution already exists. A new PVP realm on east cost with low pop right now. In addition to a medium pop PvP server on west coast.
If people are not filling those servers that falls on them. It has nothing to do with blizzard. They told you what WILL happen. You agree it WILL happen. Instead you choose to not change servers.
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If they would have had more servers when layering goes away and the people that are casual go back to retail. The complaint then would be a dead server. Damb if they do, damn if they dont.
I saw what it looked like playing on streamer servers (particularly asmongold) in beta. That level of spam is not something i blame anyone for choosing to avoid. You literally cant even use basic chat functions, the spam comes so fast and furious.
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Your interpretation of what is happening is very biased and single minded.
What is happening is a concerted effort to keep the number of realms as low as possible. That means realms will fill before new realms are made available. The que is the motivation to move to the next available realm.
You call it a problem when it’s part of the design.
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Would it be a bit smoother if there was a designated BR or LA server? Yes, it would have removed a variable, and that is something that Blizzard could do.
Would it be better if the streamer location was singular and know? Yes, but that is on the streamers. There are valid reasons to avoid (or follow) streamers depending on your viewpoint. Instead we had Twitter hints and hotbeds of forum gossip eliminating many of the servers shoehorning people into a very small subset of the servers if you were in the avoid school of thought. Yes, right before name reservations a streamer posted one server as the location of a group of them - on twitter (nice of the person) but a full and widely public statement (preferably as a blue sticky on the forums) would have made the name reservation process have more balanced server populations.
Not sure how, but somehow it’s Bobby Kotick’s fault.
Your Starbucks analogy is flawed… this is more like Starbucks having a Grand Opening and, after months of excited anticipation visible in social media, the day comes and they see an enormous line of customers waiting for the doors to open! When they open the doors they only open one register… then wait until damn near every customer has placed their order and paid and are now waiting to be served only for the manager to finally recognize the problem and open the extra registers for the remaining handful of customers. Saying it was a “choice” to not go to a second Starbucks wasn’t quite accurate because that place didn’t exist, at first. (At least this is how I understand OPs point)
That said… now that a second “Starbucks” does exist… if you find the line at the current lines to be too long … it’d definitely be worth stopping by the other location. If the OP is right regarding people holding out to sub last minute I’m sure the risk is low that people do not migrate to that server and fill it up as well … hence giving you a well populated server with little to no wait to log in.
Stalagg is open! Make a character there
I had no problems getting the names I wanted on the servers I wanted.
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This is exactly right. I see this as blizzard making every attempt to not end up with too many “dead” servers, leading to a number of server merges (which we all hated). They are purposefully bottlenecking the choices so that the servers are all filled out nicely. Then as the existing servers reach the point of overflow they open a new server and make the attempt to redirect attention there. The only oversight I think that was made was how the community would self distribute the EST-PVP servers amongst the Streamers/SA/NA. Which, IMO, compounded the bottlenecking for different reasons.
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Your comparison to my analogy would only be correct if the name reservation launched with only 1 pvp realm available. It launched with 4 so the option to choose another realm when you saw that many people were crowding your first choice was always there.
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I agree-ish except there were 3 EST-PvP which the community sort of split up amongst themselves in the build up so most everyone, depending on your desired community (Pro-Streamer,Anti-Streamer, South American), felt as if they had one choice. Now I do not say that is entirely blizzards fault as we, the community, split up the servers as such. I will say that, regardless of how the community agreed to split them up, when I reserved my names (fighting the log in issues at 6pm EST with everyone else) all 3 of the EST-PvP servers all showed high and I waited in an 11k+ queue just to reserve a name.
I’m not disagreeing with you entirely … only in that we all did sort of fall into one of three “Starbucks” depending on the flavor of coffee you wanted. 
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My server isn’t planned to have long queue times, though, I’m not afraid to be on the same server that some FOTM streamers are on, or afraid to be on a server where a small population of LA players will be. It’s not Blizzard’s fault, you just all flocked to the same server for pretty weak reasons.
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That server is listed as full.
That server is listed as high.
What do you expect us to do? 3/4 of Americans live in the Eastern and Central timezones and there are four PvP servers for us to choose from. Four PvP servers for a population of 250 million, not even factoring in Canadians and LAM/Brazil. Sure the new server is low pop, but how long will that last? What will the excuse be once it fills up too? Why do you think this is an us problem and not a Blizzard problem?
Not entirely fair to discredit someone’s opinion on whether streamers will have effect on the classic experience as “weak” nor is there any accurate guess as to how big the SA community will be. Both of those factors are “unknowns” and 1 of them certainly was not part of the vanilla experience. Both have fairly obvious impacts to how the game will feel for some (even acknowledged by their own respective communities).
Add a Brazil server and a Latin America server. (Spanish).
Add one more CST and one more PST and I think we’ll be good. Maybe one more EST server.
Although like in the early days of wow it will only last so long before they need another.
Didn’t blizz say they would be rolling out new servers as needed?
If they failed to roll up a new server as ones become to crowded then that is a Blizz problem. I
f they stand up a new one and people refuse to make toons on it(you can delete your characters on the overpoped server to free up the slot) opting to still go with the crowded server whilst leaving the new server at low pop then it is the players fault.
The problem right now is people are not moving to that new server and that is not Blizz’s fault.