Question about Multiboxers

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I agree.

I myself have never farmed mats or instances, I don’t have 20 druids or anything, I used to run 2-4 toons through Wrath Dungeons, as I’d played Beta I was pretty bored after release so I tried 2 boxing and then 4 just to see if it was fun.

I used no software of any kind, I had 2 monitors, 2 toons per screen and would literally play between the 4 using follow macros so I’d not leave any behind.

I was not easy, but it was super fun for a time.

I think mass farming by boxers or bots goes against the spirit of the game myself, even if you are able to legitimately control many toons, it’s still highly abused and as such has brought us to where the community has had it’s fill of boxers and I totally get it.

I just hate the blanket accusations that come with boxing and having been there I tend to try and offer an objective view, doesn’t always land though. :smile:

However to combat some of the issues associated with it, I think the node system should be changed to being single tap, less mats per node but more nodes in the zone, it would level the field some.

Toon stacking…hmm…that’s a great point to bring up, I could see an issue with raid mechanics and moving around and it resembling bumper cars at the fair with players clashing, would be super funny to watch if nothing else.

But yeah, something along the lines maybe characters on the same account get automatically pushed apart so that they cannot stack, maybe limit this to outside cities so they don’t spread themselves over the AH and Mail Box etc.

It’s a worthy discussion topic for sure. :+1:

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True, some raid mechanics would need revisions to account for toon stacking no longer being a thing. It would help both in PvP as well s PvE.

Like people who purposely try and have half a dozen people stand on top of a body, making it harder to loot or the like. Yes, they’ve improved on that as you can click through them. But sometimes finding the correct spot to click on is the hard part.

It would help with a number of issues.

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I’ve got to say, personally, it seems multiple times a day there are multiboxing threads and confusion or just outright angst.

I’m not a boxer, but its not cheating, full stop.

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When it comes to farming, I don’t personally see it as cheating for the most part. But it’s pvp and it is literally impossible for a single player to beat a multi boxer with a few characters, yeah, it’s cheating. Blizzard gets to define what is allowed for their games yes, but they don’t get to redefine a words meaning.

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I’m not going to hunt down a needle in a haystack just because you said it’s there. You made the claim, the burden is on you, and you alone, to provide proof to back up that claim.

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Never, 20v1 will end the same way regardless of how many players are present.

Yes and no, hardware can take the place of any keycloning software. However, everyone who plays wow must use third party software in order to do so. You’re drivers, OS, and the software used to control your mouse and keyboard are all third party.

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Actually this would also fix mass farming. If the toons got pushed apart by enough they would not be in range to tap a node forcing the player to change windows in order to collect on each one of them. This would give people a chance to hit a node before a multiboxer could exhaust it. It would also slow farming down giving them less to flood the AH with.

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Or maybe?

What do you think?

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My only problem with that is I don’t like the idea of zones being over populated with nodes. Just from an aesthetics point of view. I don’t have anything against it mechanically.

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I think personal loot nodes would work best.

Nodes spawn for each person randomly throughout a zone and only they can see and harvest.

No more multibox farming.
No more breying from people who don’t want competition.

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I’m sorry, who exactly is redefining the meaning of cheating?

If it’s not against the rules, it’s not cheating. That’s the definition.

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There is another option and that would be making sure you’re geared right.

Don’t need to be an mboxer to be viable in pvp. Just if you’re not and one shows up and they’re good, might be time to leave unless they’re on your faction.

Also, this week is Comp Stomp (I just learned that) so if you’ve never pvp’d before, this is the week to do it.

It’s fun. I highly recommend it. You don’t even need to be geared that high.

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Yea, I don’t like multiboxers
I see nothing positive for the game or community from them

Just a bane on things like herbing and pvp.

Blizzard doesn’t seem to care

I don’t pvp so I don’t mind much

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Regardless of your skill or gear level, you’re going to be a more potent force if there are 5+ of you.

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Players do have a say though, they’re the consumers. If they’re not happy the stockholders aren’t happy because the consumers aren’t spending as much time or money in the game

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Yes. You could operate 1,000,000 accounts without 3rd party software.

Blizzard doesn’t consider programs to replicate keystrokes (aka I have 1 keyboard and all 20 computers are recieving inputs from it) as 3rd party software.

Only when the software itself presses the key does blizzard have a problem.

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To me personally when it’s used to gain an advantage I consider it cheating if blizzard doesn’t that’s fine but to me it feels like cheating. True you can have 40 players Zerg you. But that’s still 40 different attacks at 40 different times maybe over 1-5 seconds. With a boxer it’s x amount of attacks as soon as they press 1 button, the fact you have to use third party software to accomplish this just essentially tells me the game was never designed or supported for this kind of behaviour, it’s simply tolerated.

Also it’s true about body can do this but it’s a lot of money and or gold that separates those players I don’t feel like money should be able to buy you advantages.

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Every single person trying to defend multi boxing is trying to redefine the meaning of cheating. Probably because it is the only argument you can come up with, even though it’s a bad one.

As for the definition of cheating, the actual meaning is, to act dishonestly or unfairly, in order to gain an advantage.

So it doesn’t really matter if it’s against Blizzard’s rules or not, it is clearly cheating by the definition of the word. I’m sorry, but being able to take on someone 5 to 1 is unfair. Whether it’s five actual players or multi boxing. Though I have more respect when it’s five actual players, at least they went to the effort of getting into a group. So in PvP it is cheating.

If, in boxing, one of the boxers was allowed to pay extra money to clone himself so he has five of himself to fight against just the one other guy who can’t afford that extra money, do you still consider that not cheating? It’s not against the rules, but it’s clearly unfair, which is the actual definition of the word.

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Life isn’t fair.

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It’s legal but it sucks. I wish it was banned and hope it is but here we are.

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