Quel'thalas belongs to the Alliance

Eh, pretty sure that is not canon. Or to be precise it was the Alliance who did the Sunwell raid.

As for the topic at hand, I would personally just go with a Mechagon style “a bunch of high elves left Quel’thalas before Arthas attack and created their own city” and we end up recruiting them to the Alliance. Instant high elf allied race recruitment storyline.

Chronicles had Liadrin lead the Blood Knights against Kael’thas in MgT, then show up at the end of SWP with Velen to restore the Sunwell after the Alliance had cleared the raid.

TBC’s kill credits were distributed in a pretty stupid way. Giving TK to the Horde and SWP to the Alliance feels incredibly backwards considering TK was a draenei citadel, and Kael’s raid dialogue was clearly written for Alliance players, while the most significant event in blood elf lore was blithely attributed to some nondescript raid of Alliance mercenaries for parity.

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Why the heck would The Sunwell raid be Alliance centric canon?

The Sunwell raid is Blood Elf centric canon. It was Kil’Jaden who manipulated Kael’thas. This is our story, not yours.

The BE heritage questchain reinforces The Sunwell Raid was the Blood Knight’s victory.

The Alliance’s only involvment was because Velen can speak Naaru, and he has a personal story with Kil’Jaden but this is not Alliance canon.

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Because Blizzard is stupid.

In Chronicles they confirmed the Alliance did it.

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Because you got the Kael thas kill and several other important kills.

Kil’jaeden was our enemy/brethren who hunted the draenei for 10,000 years. We have dibs on him.

We have chronicles stating otherwise. This particular fight was a joint effort and lorewise did have Alliance involvement.

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Having Alliance involvement doesn’t equal Alliance PoV as canon.

The way you described it in your original comment was as Alliance saviors.

Except Blizzard made it canon, well as canon as canon can be considering how they treat the Chronicles series.

I described it the way it was described in the book, the Alliance was the canon pov of Sunwell raid. The Horde however is the canon killer of Kael in both instances.

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Quel’thalas belongs to all the flavours of quel’dorei, and all those elves agree to an extent because high elves are allowed to make pilgrimages to the Sunwell even now.

The only ones who can’t go there are the ren’dorei because for some reason Blizzard decided that it was a good idea to retcon the lore and allow a goth book club to be capable of nuking the Sunwell on accident.

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it’s cause they’re Alliance and the Sunwell is largely considered a Horde property.
We wouldn’t be seeing this if the tables were reversed.

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Intercontinental ballistic catapults would like a word.

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Come and take it, there are barely over 1500 of you in total if you combined both High Elf and Void Elf forces.

Or alternatively, the Void canonically is very antagonistic to the Light. These forces cannot exist in the same space without trying to destroy one another.

The Sunwell is a lightwell.

The Rendorei are Void elves.

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Or its is because Kael’thas was killed by the Horde(which considering his connection to the blood elves would be more important) and we got to banish Kil’jaeden considering his connection to the draenei!

:smile:

Blizzard has never given population numbers for a reason. There will always be enough of any race as demanded by the plot.

I would also point out the blood elves have in the span of less then a decade, been involved in a civil war, a War in Nothrend, and two Horde civil wars. Maybe at one point there were fewer high elves, but the blood elves has taken a more considerable losses then them over the years.

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Man, Wowhead nailed the difference.

The Eye: The Horde lead the attack against Kael’thas, the former ruler of the Blood Elves. Initially loyal to Illidan, Kil’jaeden had lured Kael’thas away with the promise of learning more about fel magic. When the Horde found him in Tempest Keep, Kael’thas is consumed by fel magic and simply a pawn of the Legion.

And? Kil’jaeden was just as much another pawn of Sargeras as anyone else was in his mad scheme.

And again, it is all about our ties to these character. Kil’jaeden was a personally important enemy to the draenei, Kael was to the Blood elves.

https://i.imgur.com/zqFgxt5.jpg

Use some manabombs to blow up the Sunwell and maybe we can go back to being slightly interesting.

Maybe after we are forced into a corner again we can be stop being bland and we can finally get out of the shadow of our rivals on Azeroth.

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Maybe you should play a night elf instead. They’ve certainly been “enjoying” the sort of misery-equals-interesting narrative you’re always wishing upon that monkey’s paw for.

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It remains a retcon since the Void itself is a retcon made in Chronicle. In fact, it’s double a retcon because even after turning Shadow into the Void and making it antagonistic to the Light as opposed to a natural cycle, Discipline Priests, who wield both Void and Light, were made into a thing in Legion.

The Disc Priest artifact is canonically such a powerful force of Light that it incinerates most attempted wielders. Yet Disc priests can prance around tossing Void magic spells all over without… blowing up.

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Your periodic reminder not to feed the trolls.