Que failing to fill teams

The idea that there are not 3 players to fill in the entire region is nonsense. You think out of a player pool of millions or if we are being realistic with how many que randoms 50 to 100 thousand there are not enough to fill or backfill a 10 player instance?

There are enough to sometimes cycle through 50+ people joining and leaving through out the duration.

And also don’t try to intellectually condescend with widespread common information especially when you hardly do anything it’s cringe.

The bg fills almost instantly within a 20 second time frame. The game is waiting for the afkers or que syncers to accept and if they don’t giving it to someone else.

K then explain why a game would sit at 7/10 for 1/2/3+ minutes? I’m not even the one bringing this up, although I’ve seen it enough, this was brought up by several people in the first few posts of this thread. You haven’t explained why this would happen, you just argued with what I said telling me it was wrong when you completely misunderstood what I was saying.

LOL that’s cute, that’s not how that works. You’re just making up numbers off of already made up numbers to further your argument. When I see the same people BG after BG after BG queuing, I promise there isn’t a pool of 50-100k people lmao

For a random BG? No. Because if there were it was just start another game

Yes you’re right, it’s widespread common information that there are 50,000 - 100,000 players BGing at all times LOL. You’re right, I won’t try to intellectually condescend you anymore, I’m just starting to feel bad about it

According to Data for Azeroth…

Which stops at rank 500,000. Characters there have 6 HK’s. This is for the entire US region, which includes Oceania

https://www.dataforazeroth.com/leaderboards/account-kills/us?rank=500000

There are not millions of players.

There’s hardly half a million characters.

They aren’t all 70 and there are probably lots of alts. I have 9 70’s and countless lowers, I’ve met people with 30 70’s. So whittle the total down a bit, lets say 4 alts per account (which is a randomly made up number, and ridiculously low balled), so about 125,000 active players.

And of those players, some people are asleep, some people are in M+, some in raids, some doing world content. They aren’t all in queue all the time.

You’d be lucky looking at 10,000 in queue at prime time. It really goes down hill outside of that time.

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Did I say at all times? It’s not the matchmaking systems fault people try to break it all the time. It’s also not it’s fault all these bad players who leave can’t be asked to stay in the game they helped create and instead want to leave somebody else holding the bag cause they think their time is more important.

See you are not the only one with a very unwarranted mild narcissism complex.

I think the system does as good of a job as you can expect when 20+ players just ditch the game when things are not immediately snowballing in their favor. Even when it’s not against a premade I leave against premades all the time.

Of course not, because you made up numbers to further your argument. 50,000 to 100,000 players when? In a given day? Week? That have played a BG in the last day/week/month? You left it perfectly vague thinking this somehow proves a point. I’ll also make up numbers and tell you you’re wrong, the pool is actually 7 to 150,000. Obviously

That has nothing to do with what I said, why are you telling me this? I don’t care

That has nothing to do with what I said, why are you telling me this? I don’t care

That has nothing to do with what I said, why are you telling me this? I don’t care

That has nothing to do with what I said, why are you telling me this? I don’t care

** Makes motion of hand whooshing over head **

It seems like they give the same time on backfills no matter the cause or reason. There is a substantial amount of time for a disconnected player to make it back into a match, on the scale of a few minutes. I think they use the same time buffer for people who don’t take the queue or manually leave the BG. That needs to be fixed, for sure.

I’m not 100% on this, it’s just something I’ve always suspected.

Ya you’re right on that, I’ve had wow crash and have had enough time to restart my computer and make it back into the match.

I more meant at the start of the game someone doesn’t even join the match. Sometimes it’s an absurd amount of time before someone joins. Could it be someone not taking the queue? Ya of course. But when there are 3 spots for that long not being filled it’s more likely it’s just nobody available to fill that roll at that time of day

I’m sure you don’t care about the facts among many other things probably at your own detriment

Lol makes up figures, doesn’t understand anything that’s being said, no rational or reasonable arguments. ThEyrE fActS gUys!

I’ll refer to you as Sir LittleThinks from now on. I know you haven’t read this far and will start ranting to me about premades and people afking games for some reason but the origin of sir littlethinks will be legendary

So you don’t want to hear about the top 2 reasons why games start players down in a thread about games starting players down?

Instead of blaming the que system how about you blame the people who break it or the people who cant stay in a game 5 minutes unless its a guarantee win

No, because I never asked nor was I ever confused. Still no idea why any of comments led you to believe that this is what I meant, you made this up

I never blamed the queue system, you also made that up. Lack of reading comprehension Sir LittleThinks

Sounds like you trying your best to run defense for the real reason why the games start players short.

I’m sure when the game starts 20 to 40 or 25 to 35 there are just not enough people to fill all those spots.

If there aren’t enough players to backfill a game then it doesn’t get backfilled. That has nothing to do with the queue system, that’s just simple math. Instead, you disagreed with me and assumed:

  • I didn’t understand why people left to begin with
  • That I was blaming the queue system for being bad

Neither of those things were even implied. Classic sir littlethinks

Also, I’ve never been talking about epics. I don’t play epics or care about them. There’s another layer to epic bgs with sync queue players that i just don’t care about. The original comments were random bgs, my reply was random bgs

So you think this game is so dead that the matchmaking system cant manage to fill in 1-5 spots

I wonder why its so dead

I don’t care about your opinion on why you think it’s dead.

And yes, i think there are multiple times a day that there aren’t enough people to backfill a game. We’re at the midway point of an expansion, this is common. There are still plenty of players but there’s also lots of concurrent games going on: epics and randoms, rbgs, brawls. With fewer and fewer players but the same amount of different game modes you will run into an empty pool of players. This happened midway through shadowlands too

Probably because of all the people who try hard over 1k honor

And that’s why we call you Sir Littlethink

I mean they try hard enough to premade so it isn’t untrue

and they have nothing to show for it lmao look at how low their HL’s are