QoL changes are needed

Yeah but it still gives an objective look on how the game is designed/played.

Not entirely, we’re talking about something very subjective (best being most fun) and the experience you have is not even close to what people had who played it originally.

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I don’t care for him. However, I do feel bad for him by this point for making the forum his home.

He was getting bullied on some stream the other day and I stuck up for him. Like, I can’t stand when weak people get picked on.

I also enjoyed SL arena. I think people are sheep and don’t even know why they dislike things. They just follow a trend.

The only bad thing about SL was the amount of grinding like Korthia, honor grind, and Torghast. The actual gameplay was good.

Unrated shuffle is in short Skirmishes. Already in the game and available to everyone.

Was it SL S1 or DF S1 where there was crazy participation due to a couple of PvP items being bis in PvE? They just need to do that again.

SL S1 it was, trinkets were insane in pve.

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Sinful. Badge and 233 weapons were crazy. Duelist pieces that could be targeted were also really good initially.

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Get these PvE kids that love grinding content for gear upgrades back into PvP so we can all climb to glad off their backs.

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If a healthy game is boosting exploding because your damage potential is tied to your rating bracket then SL gearing is extremely healthy.

read rest of my comments i go over the fix for that

  • Get Duelist
  • Have gear that makes you by default minimum 30% stronger than anyone below 2100
  • Stomp them into the ground pressing the identical rotation they are pressing and then act like you’re a god gamer

Is the jist of it

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That’s because you were the one with Duelist gear stomping the ones without Duelist gear. I was too. It felt cheap and unsatisfying to win because you had a massive gear advantage boosting you.

But I agree that the gameplay and covenant abilities, the actual combat system, was dope for a lot of specs. Better than DF and way better than TWW.

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Nope, I climbed up from the deepest of depths against those people.

Selling carries was easy tho once I had that gear. I would make like 500k gold in 30mins.

I wish the gap was anywhere near that big.

Higher rated so true. :dracthyr_uwu:

Nah you can shove that somewhere unpleasant.

Ilvl advantages in pvp don’t ever need to be a thing

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That was because of the pandemic, not because the gearing system

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If Shadowlands PvP gearing ever comes back, I’m instantly quitting PvP if not unsubbing outright.

Most players need better/more frequent rewards as an incentive to PvP- not an even harder rating ceiling to push through.

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The boosting community loves the idea of it because that means they’ll get rich(er).

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Shuffle is an entirely different style of play than any other form of pvp.

In skirm/arena I can still pull a win out even if they kill my partner first, did numerous times over the years, that’s literally impossible for shuffle.