Why does rogue never get hit with nerfs?
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Well according to the rogue I spoke to yesterday: “Rogues aren’t even that strong, and anyone who plays double outlaw is an idiot”
still not participating anymore until rogues actually get a substantial nerf. season’s still gonna suck buttcheeks until the devs pull their heads outta their asses
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this impacts rogue mage and jungle far more than the meme netherwind change, the meme outlaw change, or the sizable craven nerf
the matchups that jungle struggled into probably become harder and the match ups jungle did well into (most of them) probably don’t change much
i’d be interested in seeing if disc jungle gets played more but i doubt it
i wonder who benefits the most out of all 3 of those comps
if they all play with hpriest and hpriest tools change who gets the most benefit out of 90 second ray and hpriest mana bar
i don’t think this significantly changes the existing matchups overall
mw buffs : ) ) ) )
These buffs do very little to help our true problems. Renewing mist buff by 25% will help with passive healing but renewing mists currently is used to proc our mastery in times we cant cast/downtime. The buff to EM will buff the instant top heal with TFT… except it already instantly topped people. Now chrysalis is a good change making what we take for pvp talents weird. All in all I think these buffs are pseudo buffs to try to get more representation to the class after the hpriest nerfs. I still think hpriest are going to be really good.
My reason has never been anything except that I’m bad.
Screw your craven though!
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Is this supposed to help? Not sure how this deals with 99% of the problems non-awc players deal with when facing rogues.
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How about they nerf blur? How could anyone playing a dh ever complain about another class.
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The fact thay you believe shield of vengeance was a problem is baffling. Ret is the one spec that has recieved the most nerfs out of every spec in the game. They are nerfing shield before sepsis shadowy duel, furys 40% healing ms, havoc healing from LEECH AND FODDER, HAVOCS 99%EVASION, mages and rogue overall control and surv.
Lemme ask you something. Do you think that 40% nerf to sov will be reverted when we all lose borrowed power? The answer is no. Many specs such as ret are carrying nerfs from previous expansions. Blizzard nerfind the base kit that heavily is a bad practice. Not only for ret but for all the specs. See how they only nerf conduits and pvp talents for mages.fire mages can be anew next expansion after their nerfs are gone.
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Legit question: Does this make sPriest decent?
They were already good…
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As long as you don’t play like a chimp given a keyboard, spriest is perfectly fine
Guess I’m out…
Brb rerolling Hunter.
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I’d assume that they’ll be a bit less harder to kill. Still, I’d hate to see CDRs existing for outlaw rogues. The better approach would have been to target their vanish legendary and nerf it greatly. Arguably the most ridiculous & overpowered legendary effect in this game rn for a spec that doesn’t need it.
Better go bm if you want to play like a braindead labrat on opioids
Yeah how could DH complain about rogue, or ret/war, or mage, or anything.
Yeah you’re so right. Other stuff definitely isn’t stronger than DH (which is in and of itself busted). Man you’re just so right, and not an idiot.
Yeah sov making a defensive also hit for 35% of someone’s health is disgusting.
Assassination, sub, and outlaw should all be gutted but this was a good change for ret since it’s defensively the same but it hinders your offensive pressure a bit meaning you’re less ungabunga.
Also are you really complaining about DH leech? Like really? Truly, actually?
Nice. Good job. I’d hate to see how you fared in BfA or Legion.
has ret been nerfed once this expansion?(outside of the toll changes)
ret warrior has been a disgusting plague the last almost 2 years consistently
im personally SHOCKED that they didn’t nerf the 25% buffed free divine storm on vanq hammer but we’ll see how it plays out with the necro banner change
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They nerfed wog, iirc.
I don’t think anything else.
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Ret recieved heavy nerfs from the start.
Nerf to divine toll, divine toll conduit, pelagos soulbind
Nerf to talents like final reckoning, executionsentence, seraphin
Multiple nerfs to spells like word of glory and healing hands talent.
They changed/nerfed aura of reckoning and vengeance aura
Nerf to divine storm when 9.2.5 dropped and now the nerf to the damage of shield of vengeance.
my point is blizzard is nerf batting a skill that was not even a problem. If you wanted to nerf ret they could have reduced the damage or effectiveness of the free ds, nerf sanctified wrath and buffed divine purpose to compensate so we have less burst and more sustained damage. I am yet to see a 40% damage nerf on rogues mages warriors. There re so many problem specs right now that deserve urgent attention but somehow rets only defensive (you cannot even call it that, a 24k shield that gets blown up in one or two globals) gets nerfed to the ground. I justdont understand.
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The point of shield of vengeanve is to deterr others from hitting you. That was the original idea behind it. It does not fulfill that design. Pick any spec any spec right now, they can all blow up sov in one or two globals. Ret has no dr so when the warrior chargea me and hits me once with cds up they go thru it instantly.
Finally, I did not pvp in legion but I did in bfa, stopped halfway the last season. Back then all I faced was dh healer and they had good selfhealing too. Difference is now you have a almost perma 20% damage increase with a 45s something 100% evasion and throw glaiveing the demon brings you back to FULL. A full channeled eyebeam and one bladedance right now break sov. So yes it didnt deserve a 40% nerf.