PvP Tuning Changes for June 9

I know, right? Just LiNe ThE bOlT, right?

I mean, the latest tournament everyone got clapped by arms/enhance/holy and you still wanna cry about destro/mage that had 52% Win rate.

For everyone upset at the current state of pvp, I propose a new game to play.

I very much have loved it when i’m with my friends who are leveling alts and we’re doing pvp together. But not that i’m beating up on the undergeared leveler, I get to just play around a bit while limited in some way. My favorite fights are like duels in the middle of a battlefield, where i run into another geared person like me.

Here is what I propose.

Make teams of up to 10, with all but one max level, geared, etc. All that unfair stuff is disabled and you’re fighting against people of equal caliber and handicap. The goal should be, in addition to regular battlefield objectives, is to protect the life of the low level character and the team with the least amount of deaths gets bragging rights. that way, if we have the low level character stop leveling, then another idea would be to gear up the lowbie as much as possible, or have them run around the battlefield naked.

Organizing that would be less of a mess than what top lvl pvp is right now. I wouldn’t have done any of the pve content if it wasn’t also required to participate and not be crushed in random bgs.

I’ve been farming my gear through pvp, and after playing through this contaigeon, I’m wondering why blizzard isn’t taking more active steps to fixing that baseline entry into pvp pretty much impossible, and making the playing field more diverse than pure damage.

Here is another proposal to fix the horrible gear farming Bullsh*t. Let’s go old school Warcraft. Make it so we have to farm up resources to upgrade our weapons and armor quality. And just like if my alts were footsoldiers created in my baracks, they all benefit from the upgrades. I would love love LOVE, to play my alts more, even if it was restricted to tiers, but once a character broke a certain milestone it stays that way for every character on the server, or whatever.

I’m kinda bummed that the only way i’ll actually get enjoyment out of the alts i spent so much time leveling (I unlocked all the allied races and have leveled one of every class/race to lvl 120 but Mage, Priest, War… so i have every other class at 120, with 2 monks, 2 shaman, 2 dk). I am, however, prepared for the next expansion to try every class/spec/coven combination i want, so, whatever. lol

WW Monk is my main. We have the lowest HP of all the melee classes and have pretty much zero escape from stuns other than the medallion, and one that is exausted, we’re sitting ducks. The offset is that we do so much single target burst damage that if we’re able to set it off it looks like we’re not doing that much damage in battlegrounds. When I first started this season, I had never played a monk before and I love it. However, I would get crushed by every class because i was picking pure dps options for my character like pretty much every guide out there says. Just Dead.

then I started picking the self healing azerite bonuses, and leech, then my world changed. My dps lowered a bit but now I do as much healing as i do damage when I’m going full dps. I have 18% leech in bgs and 13% in arenas, and because of my self heals, bonuses, i can almost take on 2 classes and kill one before i die if i play it right. I only have 17% base versitility, 30 at proc.

I think versitility is fine so long as it’s restrictetd to pvp items. Have it be THE pvp item so that PvE scrubs can’t come into the random bgs and destroy everyone in the pvp battlefield because they took the darkside route to gearing up. Also, I’m going to advocate leech for Monk. My survivability is insane.

Anyways, that’s my 2 cents

How could we have missed that sleeper overpowered comp? Man.

Look up the matchups and how each game against MLX was played. Pikaboo has a particularly good video evaluation of their matches and why they were able to win. Do you honestly think having to wait until 50% dampening is good gameplay to play or watch?

Cloud9 was getting visibly frustrated and rightly so. It isn’t fun for anybody involved.

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In related newS?!? LOL THERE IS NO WAY YOU GUYS ARE SERIOUS THIS IS LEGIT COMEDY TRUMAN SHOW LEVEL TROLLING LOOLOL

Blizzard you see the death log someone just posted of dying in a mortal coil? 3 bolts for 360k total damage in 2.2 seconds while mortal coiled.

FIX.

YOUR.

GAME.

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No kidding. He even commented that he had to stay in stealth while they waited for dampening to stack and his overall time in stealth was over 6min for each match.

He also commented about people saying that MLX can also only kill people after 50%, but that is only because they FORCE others to pillar hump until 50%, because if you even dare poke your head out before then, you are as good as dead in under 10s.

Playing against a Warlock isn’t enjoyable and playing as a Warlock isn’t either.

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There is still time to nerf destro!

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10/10 troll lmao

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So if you arn’t playing MLx or RMx you are out of luck right now it seems. I’m 2500 right now playing WLM and i get the feeling we’re in for a very rough time on reset.

Paladins will be the kings of healing again due to the conflict nerf and cocoon nerf.

Blizzard do something about Warlocks and to some extent Fire mages.

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what the heck, these arent destro nerfs?

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I can’t just swap my gear on live like they do on the tournament realm. I spent months grinding haste vers gear and then spent forever grinding vers amps. The most frustrating part is my time and effort being invalidated not the balance changes themselves.

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So are there going to be defensive buffs to enh now! Spec finally felt good after getting some vers to not go squish.

mages and locks stand 40 yards apart cant let either free cast and cant stop both. leave pillar you die stack up you die try and swap from 1 to the other you die. they spam cc and are uber tanky. I just refuse to believe the balance team is that blind they cant see the issue but then again if they do see it why are they not on the chopping block ? im not even going to go into WW because these 2 are more problematic and when paired together are 4x as strong. We didnt give up on this trash expansion but it seemed you guys did. Months of no balance changes is no longer acceptable

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Yep. If specs like Feral and Ele were doing half the dmg destro did it was considered strong and it was because of a bug, and it gets fixed quickly. But if a destro just deletes people by facerolling on their keyboard it’s fine for an entire expansion and nothing needs to change.

Clearly someone up there’s playing destro as their main.

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surely we’ll wake up to some fair and justified warlock nerfs and we’ll all enjoy the rest of our stale inflated 50 week season!

no way blizzard is ignoring every single post in this entire thread right

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did you see how they nerfed conflict after making it useful. no good deed goes unpunished.

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they are amateurs

Even as marks locks have gotten out of control for me, 1 coil even with relentless is enough to kill me, i was 95% yesterday and i got coiled out of los of my healer an ate 3 bolts to the face an died from 95% in a matter of 2 seconds. i turtled soon as i came out of the coil but you know the bolts already in the air so my defensive becomes useless. their .5 second fear cast and bolt cast needs to go, its so bad that you have to kick shadowfury or you will be stunned and feared into bolts that dont break untill 3 of them hit you, i was watching my friend who plays with gladiatorlossa and i legit heard this choasbolt,choasbolt,chaosbolt.choasbolt this was under 2 sec an the addon couldnt even keep up.

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“I was watching my friend who plays with gladiatorlossa”

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I think blizzard would really gain some insight from watching Pikaboos breakdown of what is happening in arena during AWC because if they dont understand why people arnt dying and think its a vers problem this guy is literally explaining it being a class problem and not a vers problem

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