Well, the math doesn’t support this being anything remotely close to what could be considered a common occourance, “stars aligned” scenarios should not really be considered in balancing.
Regardless of that, they still nerfed the wrong thing… WoG’s base value did not need nerfing, only Healing Hands did, Healing Hands was already the only viable talent on the row, now it’s even moreso… They should not have nerfed WoG’s base value because WoG by itself is not remotely problematic, only when amplified by Healing Hands does it become a problem, so Healing Hands is what should have been nerfed.
In case you haven’t noticed by now, I’m not complaining that the nerf happened, I’m complaining that they nerfed the wrong thing, and completely killed every other talent on a row that was already stripped of choice… If they nerfed HH the others would have actually become viable options (well, Selfless Healer would have at least, Justicar’s Vengenace would still be awful).
never said they were trash just saying that the scale of the nerfs were much more dramatic than these. No need to get angry because you dont know how to trinket wall :D.
My biased opinion? 5% health is literally even on paper not enough health in a meta where every ability hits for around 30% health
Is bias not a good thing when designing classes i mean dont you want the person who tunes and balances your class to idk, maybe play the class a lot and truly understand how it works?
But do you know what im glad we truly established? That you’re to narrow minded to think about the success of anyone elses class except your own. Im willing to bet you couldnt give me a legitimate reason why death strike doesnt need to be buffed outside of you not wanting to deal with dks who have a heal that actually does a reasonable amount. It seems to me you just wanna roll over every dk you see because you hate the class
And unlike you I actually do advocate for healthy changes for other classes because i care about the game more about my individual class. My class is most fun when other classes are also fair and fun because that means to me that when i win it was more fair and worth more.
I was literally advocating for the proper wog nerf above because the current one is going to hurt paladin longterm. Im not quite as narrow minded as you
I’m smart because I’m able to percieve the struggle of Death Knights and their pitiful self healing, so miniscule it forces you to be a glass canon rather than promote any defensives. A palidan can flash heal for 2k, but their Verdict does 1k dmg. It’s better to heal than dps in most scenario (but mana). Death Knights hit for 1K and heals for 900. Terrible trade.
The DK calls you out on that because you can’t grasp the needs of the death knight class and immediantly call OP and juggernaught meta on a 5% healing increase. Give me a break.
Idk maybe because you have plate armor, AMS, AMZ, IBF, Lich to bypass before dying (not including externals), not to mention Chains of Ice can be used for kiting (bet you didn’t even know this since you strike me as the type who unbound almost every key besides W) to stop a ton of damage, so shouldn’t be unkillable between them? Maybe 10% would be ok, I wouldn’t know without experimenting within the current meta, but historically any time they’ve buffed DS it has simply made DKs impossible to punish for bad play and this is not what we should pursue.
I’m literally advocating for priest/SP nerfs in several other threads, among other nerfs to the other specs I play, along with buffs to others that I don’t play. Keep digging, though - maybe we’ll be able to fit your ego in the same grave as your credibility.
Yeah, the damage taken is 12 - 20% in the last 5 seconds.
If I take 20,000 damage in 5 seconds - I heal for 4,000 which is equal to 11% of my health. Increase the minimum heal - and if it is too small - revert the percentage taken heal.
Armor does Jack in a game where literally every class has access to spell damage. AMS is pitiful, absorbs too little and gives back too little. AMZ is a 20% mana reduction and a PvP talent is used to make it 70%, it still sucks btw. IBF is on a god damn 3 minute CD and it lasts for 8 seconds wtf are you talking about. Chains of Ice is DKs only saving grace right now and literally every class has access to movement cleanses/reduction
Death Knights suck, a 5% healing increase isn’t gonna be the end of the world.
So your reasonable call for death strike to not be buffed was insulting me and saying you didnt think i knew how to press chains of ice, You also really just listed abilities that i had in my spellbook instead of keeping focus on the point which is deathstrike individually. Its impossible for you to see your own ignorance because you dont play death knight and im sure dont keep up with all the dk changes and know them by heart like i do. The current death strike that we have in shadowlands is actually even weaker than the death strike we had s4 BFA with 70% vers amp
So why does it make sense to nerf an ability that was already nerfed even harder going into an expansion where it will be made even worse just because you no longer have 70% versatility?
See how i remained on topic? Please do that next time you want to give valid reasons as to why it shouldnt be re buffed.
And just to tear down your fragile argument further because im toxic and love to do that obviously plate armor in an expansion where everything does magic damage is a poor first thing to mention
Ams gets 1 shot by almost every caster in the game
Amz is very strong i agree with you but thats 1 single ability that doesnt have 100% uptime.
IBF laughable damage reduction long cd hardly any uptime does not contribute to longterm survivability which is something the death knight class is supposed to have
Lichborne is used as a healing cd mostly, if not a trinket. You sacrifice one or the other by pressing it and if you do opt to use it for healing you global lock yourself for 10 seconds. It still doesnt heal as much as baseline casted shadowmends btw
Chains of ice is usually flat out ignored by the majority of classes. It can shut down very specific classes i agree and i dont really agree with 70% slows for any class but its hardly enough to justify why death strike doesnt need to be buffed again you just stray so off topic
Not even gonna dignify this volume of nonsense with a proper response. Should have known this was a troll account when I saw the lvl 30 facing.
Bottom line, DKs if you want some buffs, sure…But not to death strike.
Because these are relevant. You don’t need a DS buff when you have other great tools for survival. You’re just asking to be less punishable for poor play and that’s not acceptable, stop deluding yourself.
If you really believe this then you’re even more deluded and clueless than I thought, or I’m being trolled. Either way, I’ve said my piece. TLDR; do DKs need buffs? Maybe. Should it be death strike, if so? Definitely not.
Edit: I just re-read that Novel of Nonsense, and I can’t bite my tongue - You clearly underestimate the value of your own defensives which screams “I don’t use these effectively” … Just an example to illustrate the point: IBF ‘laughable’? It’s 30% mitigation and stun immunity, and useable in stun. That is FAR from laughable.