- edit - there is pvp talents, start showing the pvp talent selections to tree reveals, was very misleading please click the link i provided it clearly shows 3 slots in which theres pvp talents which we can choose from or may just be apart of the specs themselves now in pvp also theres is so classes with a couple of current pvp talents be now just class or spec talents themselves so there may not be a choice just theres 3 here they are
I thought Holinka said that they’d be working as they do now, but that they might not be making new ones initially, and that they’d come in the 10.5 patch or something.
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At that point they may as well just bake certain pvp talents into a class’s overall toolkit though. It might actually be better for the game to do that since there are numerous pvp talents that would actually make people enjoy other forms of content more.
That’s how they’d bake it in, though. If you mean carrying over in PvE then that’d be a potentially clutterous thing with unintuitive abilities, like Dismantle.
Thats not really baking it in though. It creates the illusion of choice where you have two set bonuses, PVE and PVP, and one will generally always be superior to the other. Unless Blizzard locks the 4p set bonuses to their respective forms of content, which we know they wont.
I definitely like the idea of PVP gloves baking a PVP talent into the character for all content–kinda like how Conflict and Strife worked.
This is what i meant. There are several PVP talents across multiple classes that would actually make PVE more enjoyable and should probaly just become class kit, not specific activity kit.
ah ok i found the deep-dive into talents thread where i can actually see that we can select 3 pvp talents. they have to add this to the tree reveals because i thought they were removed after checking out wowhead tree calculator and stuff but good thats awesome thanks for the info <3
They are, hunter can have scatter shot and explosive trap as they are both in the class tree currently. I dont know if other classes have/are getting this as well but its definitely happening.
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There are several PvP talents baked into regular talents
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Would love to see more of this happen for other classes too. Hunters having the option to pick both scatter and intim. through the class talent tree is hype. Some honor talents for certain specs are pretty busted, so hoping they make the right calls with those.
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If grounding doesn’t become part of talent tree for shamans I’ll be shocked
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Just because they’re baked into base talents doesn’t mean that PVP talents are going to be lobbed. I’d honestly prefer them being base talents anyways to force people to not be insane and then get 3 additional insane talents.
Prob just getting a whole new “We really tried on these!” PVP talent tier.
actually yes thank you this even makes my point even more clear just how theyre presenting the hunter/rogue talent trees, i saw float like a butterfly and scatter but there isnt 3 slots that shown like in the current talent trees where we pick them so it was misleadng plus please release cooldowns of abilitites
for the love of god can we please all band together to try and convince blizzard to grant us at least 4 PVP talents instead of just 3?
i’m so tired of playing my rsham and being met with an abundane of good talents I’d love to play, but can’t because no space since grounding and living tide are two mandatory slots
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I think that they’d unfortunately sooner nerf the 100% pick rate talents than add a fourth slot.
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stuff like grounding and smoke bomb were only added to the pvp talent trees because they’re too OP in PVE.
“too OP” is quotation marks for smoke bomb… grounding I understand.
related, but Blizzard needs to make smoke bomb baseline with the 10% damage reduction again for all rogue specs and remove that horrendous CDR raid CD idea they have going on.
rogue needs a raid CD and it had one. it worked fine. just bring it back. 10% dr smoke bomb will hardly affect PVP at all in comparison to the CDR
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Pvp set bonus please.
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Probably means we’re gonna get new pvp talents to replace those in the talent trees.
Grounding was baseline for centuries I don’t see why they can’t make boss abilities just ignore it
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Or just not do that
Durumu with grounding and mass reflect was a fun boss
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