I mean people are calling DF PvP bad purely out of playing BGs in blues.
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No, they aren’t. This is like pulling the one contrarian tweet out of the pile of thousands.
I think a lot of people suppressed the memories of all the arena career 1400 players getting quick Rival or Duelist in RBGs early in the s1. Whether it was by sheer luck or paying for a carry. Then they camped the 1400-1600 bracket for the rest of the season.
I know of a DK who allegedly lied his way into a high rated RBG group and got 2100 before people realized he was a back pedaling clicker. Personally i think he RMT’d for a carry and was too ashamed to admit it. Many such cases.
Are we seriously gonna pretend like OP isn’t the only one who hasn’t called PvP bad lol? I’ve seen it numerous times since pre-patch dropped.
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Yeah, plenty of people are complaining about the lack of Shadowlands gear upgrades. 
Basically what he said. People who were hitting Duelist were fighting other Duelists/Glads anyway on a constant basis. EBG community kids in equal gear aren’t going to suddenly be the best PVP players in the game. lol
The season hasn’t even started and things are already vastly better compared to shadowlands. They also said they plan to do even more tuning soon.
You need to stop doom posting and go touch some grass.
It’s not doom posting homie. If you have been pvp testing since June for the Beta, went to all events where you “PvP with the Blues” and the community gives a list of glaring issues since June. (Now half a year if you don’t know how to add) and it’s ignored, and the state of the game is as rough as it was then as is now before the season starts. It’s fair to say that you can be worried.
But it’s okay! Not all of us have standards Mr. Eorcus 
Season hasnt started, game hasnt been out for even 2 weeks, they’ve already done some tuning.
not even 2 weeks vs 2 years of wrench turning.
TLDR: Your premise is ridiculous
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Been pvp testing since June. The exact issues that the entire community has been screaming for, is exactly what was brought forward six months ago.
SL was also terrible, not defending that heap.
TLDR - Have standards.
He is a mage you are a priest, which one can heal?
Caught in 4k, doesn’t realize the forums are garbage and shows everyone as 60.
I just saw a post where he said he was beta testing for a long time so I don’t need to ask more brah
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show me a beta that led to the perfect launch of the first ssn without tuning required, or a beta that came close to the data that would reflect the same results as the entire playerbase playing live
or a .1 patch of an expansion where every class didn’t have massive tuning or even outright new abilities post launch.
you can be ignorant and have standards i guess
pvp is not that fun atm
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I can put someone in the GY in like 3 global CDs and PvP is lame IMO. The class archetypes have lost their identity… Tanks and Melee DPS are the same thing pretty much though some tanks are nearly invincible under certain circumstances… So are some DPS now that I think of it.
Ranged don’t kite anymore (Save Frost Mage)… mostly because it’s useless… They either Global Nuclear kill you are they die… Thats the complex play of WoW… Kill them before they hit you or you explode.
It’s not SL vs DF its both… The lines are too blurred. Self healing for everyone needs to go, Excessive DCDs on DPS need to go, Excessive OCDs on Tanks need to go. Lets have Tanks, DPS and Healers again…is that so difficult?
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Data is there. Just look lazybones <3
Once again, have standards.
It’s extremely fun.
I am entirely unbiased.
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I can say with full confidence that Lasso has read/tested more about DF PVP than most people.
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The data you think you’re trying to refer to doesn’t support your case at all.
Ironic. Most of the people you’re trying to argue with have either done way more better testing than average or understand things enough to know the games state.