It’s the only way beyond changing human behavior (which isn’t possible for dictators)
No. It’s not. Faction queue would be just as effective, provide a much larger incentive to reroll than sharding, and not open the game up to more sharding exploits.
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It is your fault for being Jerks! /cry
But a possible solution would be to introduce faction changes. At least then people have an option. I feel though many will still stay on Horde. Perhaps server faction population caps? I don’t know.
I completely agree. I don’t feel like digging through old posts as I renamed since and my history is gone… but before they even announced servers, me as well as many others were saying they should create a faction specific ‘lock’ during launch phase so there can’t be like 10k horde to 2k alliance. So if you wanted to roll horde on a certain server you couldn’t until alliance caught up. Also, they shouldn’t have opened brand new servers when they introduced the free server xfers. This is bad. This was just asking for the opposite effect on those ‘new’ servers to happen, when they could have opened xfers up to existing, lower pop realms. That or when the problem with imbalance first showed its face, they could have just flat out gave horde a massive q timer. That’s a bad thing after the fact considering a majority was already horde but…
The problem is now here. Could bliz have done something better? Sure. Would it have helped that much? Maybe a little. Who are we to blame? Literally everyone on horde rolled horde because “HoRdE bEsT pVp LoL”
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The only possible solution at this point in the game is to start up faction queues based on the other factions current logged in members. so if 3000 of one faction is let in put a limiter letting only ± 10-20% of other faction log in at a time. If your server is heavily one sided then allow free faction change / server transfers for that account to move or swap sides
Those of you who say just re-roll this will never happen in any sort of large scale and will never work.
Those of you who say it’s our own fault for the balance being skewed no it’s blizzards for not balancing their game and putting limiters on how many of one side could sign up per server.
The real solution would of been at launch while things were getting started by adding said limiters on how many horde or alliance would be able to be reserved if there was a heavy imbalance they should of said “sorry too many of (said faction) on server please try (other faction) or wait until more slots are opened to balance the server.”
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I’d rather see sharding than faction queues. At least people would actually be able to play the game. As it stands now with queues some Horde player would NEVER get on. That can’t be good for the game.
There are more Horde players on PvP realms than Alliance overall as far as we know. Do you think Blizzard should force people to roll Alliance?
That’s the point. Sharding isnt a strong enough disincentive to keep contributing to faction imbalance. Heavy handedness is needed.
They either switch to a less imbalanced server, wait in queue. Or quit. Either way it’s better for server health than allowing the imbalance to continue.
they need to force a balance of some sort either with queue times server transfers to places that are alliance dominated or faction change otherwise the pvp servers will just die off and no one will have fun
Edit** not to mention if they were to do this horde queues would be decent as well no more 40 minutes waits for an AV
Most PvP servers are Horde dominate. There’s literally nowhere for some of them to go.
The sharding suggestions would still basically be a queue of sorts.
Not gonna lie. This is probably what I’d do if a choice that I made months ago came back to bite me this hard because a company decided to arbitrarily change the rules.
They can transfer to PVE where the servers are not horde dominated. Your Horde brothers will welcome you with open arms.
its hard to find anyone to duel outside IF as Ally. so im very happy the amout of horde wanting to fight in wpvp. And its not like phase 2 with huge groups. so i get 1v1s a lot.
Im not AV grinding so ull find me in wpvp all day making sure horde dont farm between ques.
Sad no Ally pvp but happy horde do and there all red to me 
I’m sure they would, but clearly the people who rolled on PvP servers did that because they enjoy that type of game play. Are we basically saying that, cause more Alliance players don’t enjoy PvP server, Horde players literally cannot play on them?
It seems like most of the solutions for the imbalance basically equate to transferring “fun” from a Horde player to an Alliance player. Is there no way for everybody to have fun playing the game we all love?
No, we’re saying that because fewer Alliance players enjoy pvp servers, Horde players need to wait their turn or else the pvp experience gets ruined for everyone and the few Alliance that will play pvp will leave. Like they did on Stalagg/Skerem.
Your choice is, have a small amount of pvp, or have no pvp. Or roll alliance and have as much pvp as you want.
Very simple concept, population management. Think of it like wildlife. Allow a species to become too crowded and the environment gets stressed. Everything then cascades into failure. Would hate to see that happen to WoW.
No thanks don’t come here
The first step is to allow free alliance transfers to the realm.
Also remove the 90 days transfer limitation for this.
THis will not solve the problem but help some.
Then after this incremental change other steps might be taken.
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PvP servers are a meme honestly they’re too prone to these imbalances. PvE servers are 100 percent the superior option
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There is a clear choice at the character selection screen for you to roll alliance. So yes, if you choose to put yourself in a situation you know is bad for you because some people think rolling horde makes you better… then yes, prepare to live with the negative consequences. It was EXTREMELY clear which faction was going to be the most flooded before you made your first character.
There is. Have more horde players roll alliance. That’s it. No other solutions. You guys are trying to overcomplicate a very simple problem. There are way more horde than alliance. Therefor you have to wait in line for bgs, we don’t. Therefor people can q premades and you really can’t. You want better q times? Go alliance. That way everyone wins.
I’m not saying anything is wrong with BG queue times. My comments are referring more to people who want to have faction specific queues for servers or to force people to roll Alliance. I’m just not comfortable with taking away player choice this late in the game. If they had set up those rules from the start then people could have made a more informed decision.
The incentive was that you didn’t have to die 15 times to get to BRD.
Heartseeker had the same percentage of rankers as Stalagg. Even if the horde got 100x more honor than alliance it wouldn’t change anything. Horde aren’t competing with the alliance, they are competing against the other horde.
With CRBG’s it wasn’t clear how bad the overall imbalance would be. Horde outnumbered alliance on PvP servers, but alliance outnumbered horde on PvE servers. Plus you had Heartseeker and a couple others servers with an alliance-majority.
But if there weren’t CRBG’s, it would have been perfectly clear what the imbalance would be, and people could have reacted early on, especially if Blizzard gave us population information instead of having to rely on third-party websites.
Not only do people have a lot of time invested, but most people have been raiding with the same guilds for months. It is hard enough to convince an entire guild to transfer, it would be impossible to convince an entire guild to reroll 5 months into the game.
The point is, all of this could have been avoided if Blizzard didn’t put in CRBG’s, and if they had provided us relevant information. And on top of that, Blizzard could have managed it with faction-specific queues.