So for awhile now PvP rewards have just been plummeting in a freefall. Lack of rewards for people in the mid-tier PvP (You really only get rewards past 1800) and deflation of rating overall has really hurt PvP from the more casual rating push player base.
I thought maybe BG Blitz would have helped this but right now with most people stuck in MMR damnation I have lost faith in this new PvP bracket as well. But ontop of that even the rewards now past 1800 seem lazy and thoughtless. The Glad mount is literally just a reskinned model of 12 other different mounts of the same type (not even going to mention the Bat mount that already exists in the game that was obtained during the Darkshore event). On top of the Weapon Illusion is 100% the exact same illusion we got during Dragonflight (except maybe different colors).
PvP rewards and PvP in general has been neglected in this game for so long it’s no wonder the PvP and competitive player base has just dwindled. And with no new players wanting to even jump into the mix (Lack of meaningful mid-tier rewards below 1800 and extreme deflation in all brackets) it’s only going to get worse.
Oh and not even going to mention the gate keeping on getting 4 set for some strange reason by not giving us the item to create a PvP piece this past week…I feel like Blizzard is just slowly choking the life out of PvP with lack of content and catering more towards developing the best new things for PvErs instead.
Anyways end of /rant.
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Vicious mount is huge for casual people and you only have to be 1000cr to grind it out
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Vicious mounts, elite sets, illusions and weapons knocked down, not to mention artifact weapon appearances via Blitz as well as the old RBG titles.
At some point you’ve got to accept that it’s not lack of accessible rewards
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Hol up.
I’m doing blitzes to finish those artifact appearances on alts but you cannot pretend that’s a widespread attraction. It was 3 entire expansions ago and anyone who didn’t start the process back then gets nothing now.
Weapons/illusions are not a “low” rating reward. Not at all. Those are HIGH rating.
Elite sets aren’t low either, nobody cares about bracers and boots, the good stuff is 1800. Now that the seasonal mastery token doesn’t buy elite appearances, there’s no shortcut by getting 2 characters to a much more attainable 1600, or through a lower rating + doing PVE.
Vicious mounts and saddles are the only thing that’s truly “low” and they are lame most of the time. What was the last good one, the SL S1 spider?
As a low-rating player myself, the rewards available suck deeply and do not make me want to participate. If I didn’t have 10 classes through the mage tower, I would be farming crates and spark weeklies for a handful of conq items and NEVER TOUCHING rated this season. Getting farmed endlessly sure as hell isn’t fun enough to bother participating, especially not on dumpster specs like ret and rsham.
I went hard after Shadowflame in DF S2 and failed. The elite set from that season is unusually good so I’m happy to have that, but it’s the bare minimum and there are plenty of seasons (like this one) where the elite recolors are dumb and lame and not at all worth the hassle of pursuing.
The bottom %s of PVPers are the ones who get demoralized and drop out of even attempting it. They are also the ones that everyone else depends on farming for rating, or else more and more and more and more decent rating players get pushed down, and pushed out because they don’t earn anything meaningful.
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Fried take. Vicious mounts have looked sick since SL
That dumb s4 wolf was the only one that sucked
Oh yeah that gorm is so *yawn* “amazing”. And another cat. And another bear. Wow. Yay.
Most of the time they’re unnecessarily uglified further by putting all the faction tat on them. Including this season’s. I’ll take my ol’ Veinseeker anyday.
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Whatever free mount I received this season, it looks so bad I wish I didn’t get it in the first place
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Yall haters. This seasons vicious mount is cool
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Vicious mounts are the one and only incentive for someone with a 1:3 W/L to even think about touching PVP. It had better be really good then, huh. Otherwise those meatbags are going to skip it. And take their potential rating with them, and let someone else get graveyard stomped.
I’m telling you AS SOMEONE who tops out at 1800 but more realistically belongs at 1600, PVP is miserable and not worth it.
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There’s only so much one can do to accommodate players that are unwilling to learn.
Claiming that nobody should be bad enough to belong below 2100 is absurd. It means everyone else quits. It means only the hardest of hardcore gladiator players get above a 50% win rate. It means the barrier to entry is so high that absolutely zero new players enter PVP, the bottom continues to rot out and shrink the fewer and fewer players that remain.
The game NEEDS 1200-rating champions to function. Not drive them away.
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Anyone can get above 50% win rate lol
That is mathematically impossible bud. SOMEONE has to be losing in order for you to win.
I didnt say everyone, i said anyone
PVP has more meaningful rewards than other modes of gameplay and it’s still the least popular.
It has very little to do with rewards.
PVP rewards are the least attainable. By far.
Large chunks of the playerbase get KSM & AOTC.
2%.
For that achievement, you get… A crappy mount. If you grinded enough for the participation trophy, because 1600 itself gives a big fat nothing.
The amount of crap to keep track of mid-fight, and the amount of knowledge on every single opponent spec needed for 1600 is certainly harder than KSM/AOTC. At least, healing shuffles sure was. Not even close to being on the same planet the ballpark is in.
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There is nothing wrong with the rewards, its the MMR system that is used to obtain them that sucks right now.
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KSM mount is better than the glad mount. 
Also keystone community is in shambles right now over how much harder dungeons are now for max rewards.
But yeah, 1600, 1800, 1950 and 2100 are pretty chill by mid season in Blitz.
This isn’t talking about glad. That’s so wildly far out of reach it doesn’t exist. It’s not really talking about KSM either, but I’ve got it done and can safely say it wasn’t that hard.
So here’s me, a week 3 KSM haver, saying no, low rank PVP is not chill and easy. I dread getting a single win on my disc priest because it means my MMR shoots up across alts who are already getting stomped because they aren’t conq-capped and can’t 1v1 a single opponent at 1400. Even that would be entirely fine, I just want to scrape out wins because they are finishing Legion artifacts. If I wanted actual rewards this would be completely unbearable.
I -am- the fresh meat PVP requires to function. I’m not getting any better, I’m not getting any younger. And I’m telling you the rewards do indeed suck too much for me to touch it.
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