Agreed, that part was ridiculous. I think Blizzard quickly woke up which is why they removed that requirement today. I was simply commenting on his irrational comment of being forced to pvp.
Furthermore, to address the ACTUAL topic I was responding to, yours has nothing to do with it. Your comment was an entirely different issue.
It really depends on what you consider “fully geared.”
226 in all slots? Assuming doing +15 or 2100 rating week 1?
Obviously doing all 3 (mythic+, raiding, PvP) is the fastest but just focusing 1 at a time .
Mythic+ is 15-16 weeks minimum (MH/OH vs 2h) assuming absolutely no duplicates or bad drops (lol) in your chest. More likely never.
PvP is likely 11-12 weeks. That’s 11-12 weeks of weekly chests and 6600 conquest to target items your chest doesn’t give you.
Raiding is tough, and really depends on how hard the raid is and how fast your guild can clear deep into the raid.
If you mean 210-213 gear then you can do that in 1-3 weeks spamming mythic+.
That is completely wrong as a heads-up. The amount of conquest required to buy every slot of gear is 10375. This is not counting the fact that you may be a survival hunter for example where you use both a mainhand 2H and then you also have a ranged weapon.
At 10375 conquest and 550 conquest per week, that is a minimum of 19 weeks to buy all gear for pvp and only through pvp. Guess what, you wont be able to buy a piece of conquest for every slot until almost 5 months into this season. Oh and by the way, you will barely be able to get full gear by buying conquest every week. by the time the patch comes out.
Of course, this is not likely but you still have to get lucky and then get non-duplicate conquest gear on your weekly chests to see that difference and by the way, the highest ilvl conquest is also gated by rating. if you aren’t a high level arena player you will not be able to get much use out of the weekly chest, if you are lucky enough to even get gear that you want.
I put a qualifier in there as to what “full geared” meant, which for this topic I assumed 226 in every slot.
Yes, 19 weeks if you buy every single item from the vendor and never, ever, get a single usable item from your weekly chest which is almost impossible.
People will be saving conquest for 4 weeks for weapons. How would it be possible to not get any upgrades from the chest?? Even if magically all 4 weeks were duplicates that is 1 item. And if you get more than 1 option they already stated a given week can’t have duplicates.
So, there is definitely going to be at least 6-7 slots over this time geared via the weekly chest.
And if you don’t have the rating at the time, upgrading it only takes honor when you do get it. You don’t have to buy/get the item all over again at a higher item level.
By contrast, someone only doing mythic+ has only 1 single way to get any 226. Once per week in the chest. No catchup. No targeting item (the largest loot table of the 3 items).
its 20 weeks if you buy every piece from vendor and if you get the item you want %100 of the time from chest its 10 weeks -.-
You still are completely missing the point were trying to make. And lets say by fully geared we mean full bis in every slot you have to be a mythic raider.
I swear you have to be a blizzard employee the whole pvp community is pissed off with this decision and your the only person argueing for it
Lmao what a joke so glad I’m not wasting my time with this garbage pvp reward system.
This is bull, so in PVE we can do instances unlimted on gear but your gonna cap us on conquest gear? How is that fair?
Aren’t you limited to looting bosses in Mythic only once a week? I know there is only one peice of gear coming out of the vault every week.
That doesn’t sound very ‘unlimited’
So 4 weeks for a 2h wep that pve can get on day 1…wow okay seems fair
Please lower the price of conquest gear and remove the rating requirements and instead use normal honor to upgrade them, this will encourage more participation than anything else. You tried this system for years and it hasn’t worked to encourage participation, let everyone get the best gear! The elite should only get cosmetic rewards.
#Stop the Rating Requirements
What is wrong with this?
You like to punish people with lives who can’t grind out 550 conquest, at 25conquest a win?
At 1900 rating (rival), my conduit options (at the vendor) automatically upgraded from 200 to 213.
Was this supposed to be 220?
Yes but there is more then one instance you can run in mythic, multiple bosses to kill, so you can get more then one piece of gear per week without the vault.
This is completely not true. In its current state, the stats on pvp gear are completely trash and raiders do not use pvp as a means to gear. they use m+.
The conquest system in place ensures you do not get an upgrade every week. You instead can take up to 2 or more (depending on which piece you are saving for) to get an upgrade. If RNG is not in your favor for the weekly chest, it can take 5 months to get fully geared from conquest gear with a 550 a week conquest cap. (math I used was for all items, conduit and 2h weapon).
How does this make sense in your brain? An active pve player can be geared in half that time if not sooner. The difference is there is a cap on what a PVP player is capable of obtaining if he chooses to only pvp in a week. (Which is what I used to do up until legion made me have to pve to pvp). PVE players can spam mythic+ just to get the best gear available until they get their drops needed from their raids.
517 posts later and Blizzard has not responded once. This proves to you all how much they care to constructively update anything.
So is there a reason the Gladiator upgrade was left out of this? Or was this even worse choice to have PVP gear now gated behind 2400 just added now?
What is the point of this if M+ is just going to invalidate this gear before anyone can purchase more than 1-2 pieces?