PvP reward structure doesn't make any sense and needs some serious changes

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There are 5 different rated bracket options to earn your seasonal PvP awards:

2v2 Arena
3v3 Arena
Solo Shuffle
Rated Battlegrounds
Rated Battleground Blitz (soloq version of rated battlegrounds)

The problem? All of these brackets give the same exact awards (except that 3s awards a glad mount + title with 2.4k + 50 wins)…yet rating in some brackets is completely free compared to others.

To put it into perspective for PvErs who might not PvP, imagine that LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic, M+, and Delves all gave the same exact items with the same ilvls, and seasonal rewards, such as doing a +8 Delve awarded you KSM. This is literally how the PvP reward structure currently is.

The soloq brackets, blitz in particular, almost guarantee you 2400 if you simply play the game, giving you all the seasonal rewards (aside from a glad mount).

If you’re not a glad player, there’s very little reason for you to play 2s, 3s, and shuffle (depending on what your spec is). Simply queue up blitz for a week, get 2400, and do something else til next season.

Can we please get some kind of different rewards between battleground modes, shuffle modes, and organized 2s/3s? Even if it’s just different versions of mog colors to start, kind of like how raiding has 4 sets of mog colors for their tiers.

The current structure just rewards queueing the easiest bracket, and discourages trying other brackets, like as a gladiator player I have 0 reason to play blitz because I just get all the awards in 3s. It just doesn’t make any sense and needs to be changed.

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Nah I think it’s fine.

They’re just for different people.

The solo queue modes are all I do since I don’t have IRL friends to PvP with, and the player pool is so extremely small.

I’m glad I can attepmt to get Rated PvP stuff even though I haven’t done rated arenas and stuff since DF.

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This post stinks of entitlement and self importance. You think youre more deserving because you force yourself to do 3s or Rated BGs over Blitz? Or vice versa?

One mode isnt better over the other. Its just different. Youre still versing human players and thats where your parallels to PVE falls flat.

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so because you can’t make friends in an MMO PvPers are supposed to suffer with the same awards across brackets that are different in gameplay?

People just want different rewards. Sounds like you just want free rewards.

And no the pve parallel does not fall flat. LFR gives different ilvl and color of gear than mythic, yet it is the same content.

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The current PvP system is the best we’ve ever had I never want to do arena again

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cool, you should get a different colored mog, a different mount, and whatever if you earned your rewards in blitz. Just as it is in PvE, where if you choose to do LFR you get different rewards over people who are doing Mythic. Or if you’re a M+ gamer you get different (dungeon specific) rewards over the people who only raid.

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Not if I’m willing to play for them?

You realize people have crazy schedules and I’d have to find someone that plays at 3-4am each night?

No, lol.

If anything I’d wish people like you stay in your lane- BG Blitz and Shuffle don’t exist for you. It exists for me/people like me.

It’s like complaining you’re a Mythic raider and you can’t do LFR or low M+ keys because they don’t “cater to you”.

And no, it’s not free 2400 unless you play this already an ungodly amount.

I see glads “stuck” in my 1400-1600 bracket all the time.

The rewards aren’t free, sorry about your e-peen getting bent lol.

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?? You’re still getting PvP awards for playing blitz, we’re asking for some different rewards in the same way that PvE and it’s varying levels of difficulty and content give different awards.

It does not make sense to give 2400 for almost free in blitz, but then be top 1% to get that same rating in 3s.

The rewards aren’t free, sorry about your e-peen getting bent lol.

There were people 4000 rated in blitz when rewards stopped at 2400 last season, what does that tell you?

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Lvl 55 trolling DK, I’ve got other things to do lol.

The forums aren’t the game.

And Gladiators have their own Fel Bat or something stupid for themselves.

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asking for diff color mogs and more rewards for the different brackets to align with how pve gives rewards? insane lol

would love to see what you are like in real life,

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Not a miserable person that trolls on a sockpuppet account, so already doing better in that regard lol

Nor am I asking or implying/prying about folks IRL lives.

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Still not seeing how asking for more rewards for pvpers is trolling lol

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Maybe when you say stuff like:

And in addition to being a lvl 55 DK, you reek of self-aggrandizing behavior.

Nobody cares, the content designed for others isn’t for you. Simple as that.

The rewards are by no means free.

Maybe for a uber-gamer like yourself- but again, nobody cares.

Like what was said earlier, PvP is probably in the best state it’s been in a long time.

:v:t4:

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You’re the one getting offended that the fact that 2400 in blitz is much, much, much, easier than all other brackets was pointed out.

All the more reason we should have different mogs, rewards, titles, and mounts (such as adding a blitz mount)

Couldn’t be more obvious that you simply want the freest rewards, I would say you are the entitled one: “I can’t/don’t want to do 3s/2s, so all the rewards in PvP should be the same”

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Arenas are trash, so happy Blizzard is focusing on BGs again.

Warcraft is a battle or war, not Skirmishcraft.

They made the right moves.

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it’s fine to think that way, not flaming at all, but why can’t we have separate rewards then? Not even separate, but rather different colors, or different variations of the titles, adding a mount to blitz, etc.

Like how is it not silly to you that all these awesome brackets are available and they give the literal same awards except 3s gives a glad mount.

Yet in raiding alone, LFR/Normal/heroic/mythic all give the same items, but different ilvls, different colors, and diff mounts.

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There’s literally tons of mounts you can grind for vicious saddle, after the current one.

There’s a weapon illusion mog for those that want to push beyond 1800 and already got their elite set. I think it’s 2100 or something.

Not against more cosmetics, but PvP is already lower participation than any other pillar.

And theres Honor rewards on top of that, for people that just want to grind nonstop.

Idk, I’d generally do it for the fun of the content itself, and the reward is a nice bonus.

Many PvPers just start again on another class and grind out that elite set.

I mean it’s not too different from PvE- someone doing a Heroic raid probably won’t do Mythic because that’s beyond their scope of skill, and LFR offers nothing to them but transmog.

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I’ve played Battlegrounds and Arenas,
Played and lead rated Battlegrounds for a decade, then played Solo Shuffle, and now Battleground Blitz.

What should be changed, what should the game keep? I’m not sure… But maybe it’s time for more dynamic queue systems. Regardless, I think it might somehow be too late to save the WoW PvP population and reduce queue times because the game had been split into 7000 different versions now.

WoW PvP should be tested for earlier, tuned for more often, and incentived better. I don’t know what about ranks and rewards should change specifically… If it all. It worked pretty well before Warlords. I say PvP suffers the most as a trickle-down effect of anti-MMO system changes and player sentiment, and all the design and production decisions that have harmed the cohesion and immersion long term. That “MMO feel” used to foster a vast and active community – those of which seeking out the toughest human competition will naturally gravitate towards PvP.

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It’s honestly kinda insane how much you need to know about each class, their major offensive and defensive cooldowns, what might be strong in the current patch, how to play agaisnt them using your own toolkit, etc.

Like a decade+ of learned experiences.

Compare to PvE where all you really need to know, is what the boss does lol.

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Blitz isn’t any easier than 2s or 3s, its just different. You are facing the same opponents, real people, just in a different arena.

Tiers of scripted PvE content exist because the easier content is tuned, and this is going to probably going to come as a shock to you, to be easier than more difficult versions.

Blizzard doesn’t tune the players you face off against in rated PvP to be easier or harder in Blitz or Solo Shuffle vs 2s or 3s, the players are what they are, take it or leave it. Thus the rewards are the same, except for 3s, where supposedly the most “balance” can be found, which is why its the only bracket that awards the glad mount.

If you want to be a glad, go get your 3s exclusive reward, no one in solo queues is going to get that over you. The reward you want for not queuing solo already exists; go get it champ!