Pvp removed from weekly vault in war within - conquest rewarded instead

They also largely focus on NEW features/content to the expansion during the announcement stuff.

Could mean a lot of things, which leaves consumers concerned. If we look at statistical data, PvP participation is at an all time low. Including new features and a plan forward, would increase consumer confidence. They don’t even care to do that, rather Ion says it himself “don’t worry PvPers we haven’t forgotten about you.” Acknowledging that PvPers feel ignored.

I don’t understand why you’re so adamant on creating excuses for a company. It’s not like they pay you.

It’s not an excuse.

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ex·cuse

verb

  1. attempt to lessen the blame attaching to a fault or offense; seek to defend or justify.

I’m not attempting to lessen blame, or say what they are doing is right or wrong. You can understand why someone does something without excusing their actions.

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The biggest problem I have with this is this ONLY considers rated contented, AND because of the API below 1500 and still when sites pull dated they are limited on the amount of data they can pull at once to update.

This doesn’t consider things outside of rated content. So yes, rated content is suffering. But your “data” only consider the most competitive part of PvP which I am willing to bet if we could track casual PvP participation it would always be higher when compared.

I don’t know why when people point out things they are doing we are suddenly “making excuses for them”. Nobody is saying PvP is saved here.

Now we’re getting into an area of semantics, I’d rather not educate you on.

That makes it, what, the third time now you’ve used that excuse?

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Anyways, would be nice if they covered more things about their plans for PvP. I didn’t even know that they were having a tournament between the top players, until I saw the stream.

It was literally right here

Unless it’s a new feature it wouldn’t be covered in the announcement. It will likely be afterwards. The BG was a new thing and the change to the vault was a new because of world content being added.

Other than talking about the number of dungeons being added they didn’t talk much at all about raiding or M+ either. It was entirely focused on Delves, outdoor content, warbands, and the hero talents.

Yes, and I didn’t see that.

Just get rid of the tier bonuses in pvp and make them pvp oriented like extra vers, chance to proc a shield or something along those lines. Cause some of these tier bonuses theyre rolling out are absurd even if it is halved in pvp.

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I mean PvP set bonuses would be different and work more like the old days I would assume. The set bonuses we got in Shadowlands and DF are not designed for PvP, they are designed for raiding.

Thats exactly what i mean. Should be 2 totally different set and pve set bonus should be inactive in pvp. Just an opinion though.

ya I think this is what would happen or could happen going forward. Nothing 100%. But with no PvP vault slot it would make sense, because if we still share tier with raiding, and they removed the vault slot that would be kind of troll. But who knows. That info will most likely be in the coming weeks/months.

Itd be awesome if it i did. I miss the old pvp gear.

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yep yep yep excited to not be 16 weeks behind on main

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