PvP Rating Adjustments

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Gotta go to a year old thread just to feel something by seeing a blue post

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Monkey see, monkey repeat

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hey at this rate the next yearly blue post here in the arena forums might come in december, so they will say that they will look into the mmr issues for season 2 (not necessarily do anything about it)

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I dont think people realize even if there is no cap it doesn’t matter, they need to do something about shuffle mmr. If for some reason we believe shuffle participation is less than RBGs and 3s, then they need to do something to allow people to actually progress in shuffle. I really do not believe 3s or regular RBGs have more participation than shuffle though, so it still doesn’t make sense to me why those 2 are both higher mmr than shuffle by a very large margin. Regardless of what the cause of the problem is, it is still a problem.

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I’m sure this has already been asked in this thread but…

If participation is so low that even R1s are capped at 2100… then why aren’t the rewards adjusted? Seems crazy to me that blizzard is just completely fine with the rewards being literally impossible to get by a single player.

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Because to blizzard its not a race its a marathon

This is currently an issue once again, there’s a nice write up by Kinndyvoker on the WoW Community Council forums from 18 days ago, unfortunately it has been ignored.

Hopefully we can get some eyes on it.

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theyre just milking us for all we’re worth

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WHOA whoever bumped this is so evil. I thought they were finally going to fix this disaster of a season.

Right now feels even worse than Dec 2023 and I played arena back then too.

An immediate hotfix should be issued.

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This will not fix the problem as MMR is a fundamentally flawed system. Why haven’t you gone to a league system similar to Overwatch where players are placed after placement matches against similar skilled players. The climb is what makes the current system problematic. I.E. Mystical has 31 alts all of which at some point he will play meaning that players at 1400 will get to face a 6 time gladiator. You don’t just have to wait for one of his characters to go through, but all of them. This is typical to high end players pikaboo (also has 31) alts that will all have to climb. This leads to average players who can hit 1800 having to grind their way through tourney and rank 1 players to get to 1600. The system is in desperate need of an overhaul.

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You can look this stuff up on drustvar.

2s: 8,376 Games Played in the last 72 Hours
3s: 9,242 Games Played in the last 72 Hours
Rbg: 507 Games Played in the last 72 Hours
shuffle: 78,061 Shuffle Rounds played in the last 72 Hours, 13,011 Lobbies Played
BGB: 3,466 Blitz games played in the last 72 Hours

Based on this there were more shuffle lobbies than any other ranked bracket on the NA realms.

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I’ve been postinga bout this for weeks.

I think blizzard isn’t commenting because they can’t use the low amount of games as an excuse, because players have already checked the date and recorded it.

The fact is, it’s a popular bracket and Blizzard is uncapping MMR for BG’s because that’s what they are focusing on.

It’s fine if that’s what they want to focus on, if they want to make SS very awful and toxic to play, just formally let me know so I can quit, don’t hide it and not comment and then have the entire community begging for help.

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SO what we need to do is get rid of shuffle so more people que 3s!

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Kind of funny how we’re split across so many modes now.

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Yeah, anything involving participation is fake news. MMR is either capped or being calculated wildly differently. Its not a player made problem… shiffle is the most popular game mode, and ive checked this numerous times now and this is always the case lately.

Now we’re back full circle to the arguments against solo shuffle lol. id be lying if i didnt say that i opposed it for this reason.

and 600 versions of WoW.

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Give us a mount already

Yep. Even if there’s more people overall playing wow more consistently, every individual activity has way lower playerbases just by nature of everyone spreading out. It’s awful.

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Agreed. So we have… retail, cata classic, classic era, SoD, and an inevitable classic+. Imo, Sod will just die, and i cant see cata making it past MoP classic. a properly designed classic + similar to OSRS where it doesn’t turn into whatever SoD is (vanilla with cata abilities) will kill era.

maybe we can make it out the tail end of this with retail and classic + lol. but who knows

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Yea honestly its whats killing arena. Shuffle was a cool idea but overall i think its bad for the game. Like Pifz said also having multiple versions of wow is killing the retail game too. We had skirmish idk why they needed to add shuffle. I get people like playing old content but enough is enough. Play the real game and let the past be in the past.