Why is there an ilevel requirement to join an LFR que but not for a random BG? Not able to even leave the graveyard because players joining random bgs with mythic gear on, no pvp trinkets, 0 vers is dumb. Stop letting these pve players ruin bgs please, I am tired of having to que alliance.
if i say this in a bg it’s considered bullying.
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I remember there were people who’d say “form your own group, then you can decide the gear requirement,” which is true, js.
JMO it’s worse when people play BGs and then don’t even try to play objectives because “this isn’t rated, go play rated if you want to win.” I’ve recently seen this sentiment on both horde and alliance sides…
[edit] Wanted to add: they will get gear if they don’t win if what they’re aiming for is honor.
Doesn’t make sense, if you que without gear you are not going to win, so you are not going to get gear. I just don’t get it, if someone had horrible greens, I wouldn’t want to take them to a mythic+. They just get to ruin my random bg experience because they didn’t do the work? Makes no sense, especially because you can’t even jump into LFR without a certain gear score.
the word i use is complacent. its the type of player this game has created and it started with experience in leveling bgs.
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But you are missing the point, If I want to jump into LFR right now I cannot because of my gear score, it scales to 411 only in pvp content, but 80% of all horde players I am running into are in pve gear or pre 70 gear, their hps are like low 200k. We sit in the graveyard the entire game. Then if I que alliance so that I can win there is almost no point in playing because the other team is so weak, it becomes so one sided. Queing for pvp shouldn’t become this one sided mess because a bunch of non pvp players happened to que without the proper gear/stats. I mean how hard is it to at least buy the pvp trinkets? I haven’t made a single character yet that hasn’t had enough honor to buy a full set at 70. Can these other players at least be put into a separate pool so that they are not being destroyed by geared pvp players? Would that really be so hard to pull off?
The hard facts right here, before that players had enough sense to pre-gear or even use the provided PVP Vendors. Then they stayed in these brackets to learn and play the class with other PVP’rs.
Youre chosing to play random bgs solo.
Youre giving yourself up to the queue and fate.
They are random. To an extend. Theres a lot of hidden matchmaking ive heard of over the years. Dunno.
Your enemy team can be full of no gear noobs too.
If you dont like this queue ranked or form your own group to increase your chances.
The solution isnt to add restrictions to the random queue thats worked for the past 20years.
The solution is to not design power vacuums. Players in the same content patch shouldnt be exponentially more powerful than one another. Go do a random BG on wrath in the reputation gear and dungeon blues you get from leveling to 80. You get slaughtered, but you still give back tit for tat better than you do in DF. (Fresh 70 vs honour gear)
That being said, unlike wrath, capping honour before you level cap will get you fully geared. Where in wotlk its still like a week of bgs and voa and wg.
Again, I like the current system. I just understand its not perfect