PVP problem

it’s become ridiculously pointless sadly I am not saying it don’t work but legit a lot of people have to report it for the system to even take notice and a lot of people are just toxic children that deny the evidence in there face

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A lot of botting this season

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I would think bots would be better but I only spotted them when people had them in gonzo mode when I healed so I’d see the kicks and immediate reapplication after dispel. I get chatter going beforehand for that purpose, discuss strategy so I know who will be trying and to focus heal, but that don’t mean people won’t monitor their characters so they can respond.

I remember when honor buddy was active you’d get sometimes half your team running around your keep doing nothing, damage profile matches but so does that of a really bad player. I’d mess with them and threaten to report all bots I’d see then we’d laugh at the group of botters that tried to insult me for saying it. Me thinks thou dost protest too much.

I just came back after being gone for a while. Might just be a skill issue.

So it’s a YOU issue because you refuse to elaborate.

I don’t think English is their first language. There’s a power gap in pvp currently and some are exploiting on top of it making it often a miserable experience. Mhie seems a better player than me so the comment about skill was only talking about my own experiences. I was healing both factions, healing’s weak and I wasn’t good enough to compensate. Usually top healed but it’s easy when the other team is doing so much more damage and, if I have a second healer on my team, they might lose to warlock self healing. I think the third died once then hid the rest of the BG.

Still waiting for WoW to do what XIV did with it’s PvP.

Game revived it’s entire PvP scene overnight by just axing certain features with dead participation, overhauling the rewards structure to be seasonal grinds instead of purely CR based, and just making the whole thing far more accessible.

:person_shrugging:

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No, we do not want FF’s version of PVP… the issue is the tuning and the lack of common sense on the team that decides what needs to be tuned. Also, what’s not accessible about PVP? Honor gear gets you to 411 and isn’t a long grind, hell I do it during my leveling process.

Yea there are a few classes dps wise that excel far beyond the others. It’s a tuning issue, they also want the games to be quicker… which I’m indifferent about.

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My horde healer, might give you an idea why I decided to wait for S2. Probably not even then.

Um… okay? I don’t know where you are going with that.

She’s like 3 for 30 at 70, got her honor set while leveling. 58% win rate while grinding honor 61-68. Balance is a big issue, skill might be the real one since there are people who play their character a whole lot more than I do. hpals have a bad rep, maybe somewhat undeserved but they are awful squishy considering plate + shield plus the meta healer can blow off my one good defensive.

Lack of tier on honor in addition to other issues, players just starting their gearing placed against people who don’t need conquest. I know people don’t care about my play style, just random BGs solo queue healing. Used to be fun, I want to say it changed but it really didn’t which is why I just came back from a break. I hoped WoD gearing would fix it, maybe it could have or maybe people had to pool resources to survive how things got with ratings for gear and carries. I left, it’s not as bad but my tolerance has fallen since I left last.

I don’t know how I’m even posting, I might need to clear cache on the website. I just wanted to help Mhie.

Performance based PvP is inherently toxic. I like participation rewards

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Balance is an issue, won’t deny that, but going 3-27 as a healer though… it’s clear they belong at low rating. It’s not easy to learn, but that’s the problem… you gotta be willing to work at it and get better, all classes and specs have the potential to climb even if they’re on the weaker side. People aren’t going to show mercy because someone is newer to the spec or class.

ilvl is PVP is already being handed to you… all you gotta do is grind a bit, honor gives 411 and conquest gives 424.

My alliance healer was pushing 60% when things went South, they started at 60 in a mixture of crafted and some pve gear. It’s not a question of individual gearing, but I know it just comes down to a personal choice of play or don’t play in this meta. It being too easy to gear worked against it in a sense, might correct if they don’t put another power grind on top and the low end can catch up.

I love PvP threads. I get to sit here, munch on some Mexican popcorn, sip on a Dr. Pepper, and watch all the replies fly.

And then at the end of the day, nothing happens.

:popcorn: :dracthyr_no2:

If you started late, that’s on you… it’s already easy enough to get. At this point, you gotta just apply effort and grind it out.

Every class and spec has the potential, while balance is an issue for the top 3 or so dps specs… there isn’t many specs that’d be lower than B tier. Only one I can think of off the top of my head is maybe enhance shaman. Overall balance isn’t that bad, it’s a few outliers.

:point_up: Trust the words of the prophet.

Lessons learned from MoP PvP reversed course mid BFA and the entire PvP mini-game went sideways in Shadowlands.

End of the day, PvP should continue to be acknowledged as just a mini-game. (Arena is probably one of the worst additions to the game, distracting from the long term nature of MMO play cycles and rewarding faster deathmatch sessions–world PvP should be the one true path forward.)

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I’ll just leave instead, maybe come back if they fix it.

Lol, probably not gonna really happen… for example, rogues have been the premier pvp class since I can remember. True balance is a hard thing to achieve, some class will excel while others fall behind.

Lol, it should be more important than just a mini-game and arena is a great idea and addition to the game. It distracts from nothing.

PVP only got better since vanilla… because vanilla’s pvp was trash.

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Kids don’t play this game.

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I know, hence the I don’t know why I can still post or why I’m even bothering defending the point. High damage and dampening isn’t a good time for non meta healers. I could probably do rbgs on smaug or ss on K but I don’t want to have to play rated to play entry level content. It’s like needing to raid to run a dungeon. Smaug was more than geared enough, wasn’t really an issue with just honor on K, just too many losses.

People are gearing then coming into BGs rather than gearing in BGs. It’s not that it’s bad or anything, just not right for how I play. I think they’ve already resigned themselves to the loss of my particular demographic :slight_smile:

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