I work all day long, with bills to pay and stuff to care.
All I want to do when i come home late night, after a very stressful day at work, is log in to my account, call 1 or 2 buddies and just queue fore some arenas or BGs to do.
I dont have time, neither patience, to play dungeons, raids, quests, and doing boring PVE stuff just to get a decent set to play theses arenas.
In this pre-patch, i needed to do a gigantic quest line just to have a decent cloak, i needed to raid super boring PVE stuff just to get a decent gear for my arenas/bgs.
I hate PVE, i dont want to play PVE, and i dont have time for this.
So, as a PVP player, if in Shadowlands Blizzard keeps forcing me to do PVE stuff just to be possible to play PVP, me and some friends of mine will quit wow.
(This is just a personal report, feel free to comment whatever u want guys, and apologize my english, since im not a native speaker).
While I agree we shouldn’t be forced into doing one side we don’t want to do, I hate the “I don’t have time” argument. Just like anything in life if you really care and want to succeed you will make time.
Well I don’t know what to tell you as I can not define what fun is to you. For me fun is competing, so I make the time to be competitive.
This really doesn’t mean anything though, there are alot of us who work and will still do what we need to do, even if we don’t want to which does suck.
if I dont do PVE, i cant get a decent gear. So in areans (what i do most) i’ll just explode. With the gear i got now (conquest gear), i cant get higher than 2200 rating even if i play super good.
btw, when i say “forcing” its obvious im not saying that blizzard is pointing a gun to my head… its on a figurative way, just a little effort and anyone can understand.
this is a wide world. if you are looking for only instanced pvp then there are plenty of games to get that elsewhere. thats not what this game is and it isnt what this game was ever meant to be. Dont be pissed at the game because they want you to get outta the city
I achieved very high ratings with just conquest gear. SL is giving us PVP vendors too, and conquest gear will be extremely powerful, on par with mythic gear even depending on your raiding. You don’t need to PVE to get decent gear.
That’s…not the definition of foce. Some better word choices would be incentivized, encouraged.
Before legion pvp and pve gear were separate and you pvp’d to get the pvp gear. There were no hours upon hours of pve chores just to gear to be viable in pvp.
That’s exactly my point. We do things that we dont want in our real lifes, working, studing, etc.
And games (at least for me) are suposed to be a hobby, to do things i want and things i can have fun.
If the game starts to “force” (plz understand the context here) me to do things i dont want (like our real life forces), it just stops being a hobby.
And, as i said, this post is just a personal report… im not saying that your commitent to the game and your will to be “successful” are not ok… its great for you actually (but nor for me).
Just exposing the reasons that are making me think about leaving the game…
I didnd found it in all researches i did. And other great PVP players (glad, top 100, etc, that are acttualy using all PVE gears) didnt either.
Bro, as i said, english is not my native lenguage, sorry if i got u a different meaning i’d want to… But i think u could get all the context even with the use of the verb “force”.
Im not pissed. Just exposing the reasons to do exactly what u said: look for another great PVP game.
Man this game was awsome when ur conquest cap was based off ur rating. At most if u capped every week, a 2500+ player was only a few peices ahead of you. But you caught up.
10 wins for the week. Log on an alt and have fun. Back when wow wasnt a full time job.
Having one character now to pvp you need to raid 3 times a week just to get ur BiS. Fun game. Pretty sure the devs got hit over and over with a stupid bat.
The amount of ease to fix this game for pvp is sooo easy like countless other people have said. Pvp players arent hard to please at all. Its almost like a lead dev for pvp is so bad at his class but is in a full mythic guild. So free glad every season.
It makes me cringe and so confused why they on purpose want to lose so many subs. Pvp is worse then ever. Pve is meh. Countless players crying for the same change, why not just do what the people want. We want to arena, not raiding.
Let us gear through arena and it should be pvp BiS. Simple as that if that means adding a pvp stat or ilvl scaling entering arena and for gods sake, disable pve trinkets in arena
Agreed. There is no reason PVPers cant acquire 80% of their gear through PVP. Make PVE gear 80% acquired through PVE. Then use the remaining 20% of BiS to get people into trying those other modes.
Ya I see what you’re saying now. I thought you were doing the “I work full time and don’t have time to play this game enough to be good” argument, my fault.
why does every person from gd that posts here not understand there’s a middle ground between not grinding and being forced to grind for hundreds of hours in content you dont even play just to start arena