PvP Left to die

In WotLK the removal of the “PvP” section in LFG was removed. This was never added back. Right now, not only do we just have no classic armory, which can be helpful since we’ve only got a ‘Ironforge.pro’ or whatever 3rd party website, we have no solid way to utilize an LFG system for PvP.

The servers are so dead, there’s no one online to even find in Trade/LFG chat. Utilizing the LFG Tool, we have to go to the ‘other’ section, and filter through the people there that aren’t just ‘selling R1 carries’, but all the other non-PvP activities.

PvP/Cataclysm is SO DEAD that if I wanted to queue Rated BattleGrounds, as I looked forward to SO MUCH for Cataclysm, I can’t. Why? Well, after a WEEK of searching, we finally found a team to queue with. We sat in queue for 30 MINUTES. THIRTY. Before the group disbanded. Want to know why it took > 30mins to find a game? Well, there were no other teams. We couldn’t find a game because we were the only team that was in queue in all of North America.

The tool, since it’s not designed for PvP at all, will have people searching for 2v2 or 3v3 teammates, but because they don’t delist themselves, they clutter the search tool with their post because it doesn’t auto-delist them. It doesn’t auto-delist them because it isn’t setup for this feature. It isn’t them searching for a 2v2 or 3v3 partner, it’s them posting a group. So, when they find their partner, it’s still in the LFG tool rather than delisting them. 50% of the posts in there are people already queueing arenas - you get excited thinking, ‘Oh, I might’ve found someone!’ but… then you realize, they’re searching for players for a 3v3 match, but they already have 3 players in their party… so… just kidding, you’re still alone. Keep looking!

I know just having a new LFG tool for a PvP Tab won’t fix the popularity of this game at this point, it’s probably a lost cause - but it honestly is so disheartening to feel so left in the dust in this category that I actually cannot play. I’ve played this game for 20 years. I’ve looked forward to Cataclysm Classic for PvP for years because it was my favorite era (crap on me for that if you’d like. sigh). And now… it’s just dead. I got my Tarecgosa Staff in Firelands first from my raid team. I got it last week. And… all I can do is queue into the bot games in regular battlegrounds (which I sat a 15minute+ queue for).

It just feels horrible to be so excited for this game, that finally exists, and to end up just logging off and not being able to even play. Instead I sit 15+ min queues for soloQ RBGs in retail :confused: I feel like an LFG PvP Tab again would at least HELP to find people, but maybe I’m too hopeful.

My real question is - why was this taken away in WotLK? Why has this never been addressed or fixed or even talked about? Help :frowning: I just want to play the game I love again.

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the PVP listings were simply moved to custom, while it was an annoying change it had no real impact on the game.

What did have an impact on PVP was having t2 weapon rewards at 2200 while 2200 was ABOVE GLAD FOR MOST OF THE SEASON.

Blizzard have and DID inject MMR inflation into WOTLK during ulduar to make 2200 easier to achieve, guess what they did in Cataclysm?

Left us to die and banned people from the forums for calling them out on being lazy. Blizzard wants Cata to die so they can have an excuse to stop the classic cycle here and just start re-releasing things like anniversary seasonal realms etc.

PVP is dead the onlything left in cata is a handful of guilds raid logging.

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The devs outright have said they don’t care about pvp you’re wasting breath.

I get it but everyone’s playing classic and retail rn/hardcore. :man_shrugging: i might come back for dragon soul and mop, idk.

Cata PvP is just not good in general even if Blizzard attempted to care about Cata PvP there is not too much they can do to fix it being dead.
This is a big problem with many old xpacs playing on the last balance patch and everyone now knowing what is meta.
Playing against Jungle in 3v3 just makes you wanna alt f4 and 2s has no dampening in it plus fire mage is extremely broken in 2s with PvE gear.

Back in the day there was no PvE dungeon tournaments. It was all about PvP. Arena tournament. PvP realms have always been the most populated ones. Everyone in Classi has a PvP title btw. Every single person here. So PvP is a lot more popular the Blizzard thinks it is. You are also going vs a living person in PvP. PvE you are just going vs a computer program that you can just Google the fight and it will tell you what to do and when to do it and how. PvP you cant do that.

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You guys find the smallest, most inconsequential things to let ruin your day.

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