PvP Issues Megathread- All Issues Organized, Community Council and Blizzard Aid Requested

[Nasrajin-sargeras]

Yeah, this one:

The Druid Class Tree: A Comparative Analysis of Why it Fails and What it Needs

March 12 Edit: Thank you to Cyrios for bringing this to the attention of the community council. I hope that it will lead to some change. I am a wordy guy, so—though I hope that you read it all, as well as the many great suggestions from the Druid community throughout the thread—I wanted to leave a quick TL;DR at the top. TL;DR: The Druid Class Tree is demonstrably worse than any other class tree because, among other things, it lacks lateral mobility, it has wasted points, it has too many dead…

It’s a long read, but very well done IMO

[Cyrios-feathermoon]

I have cross-posted it on the CC forums, hopefully it helps.

If there is anything else, for anyone, please use this thread:

Community Council communication thread

Hey all, or howdy, as apparently, all Americans say according to television! I should’ve made this thread probably way sooner, but I guess better late than never. If there has been one feedback that’s been given towards the community council, it’s that it’s difficult to communicate between GD and CC, I figured making a thread, where we can do just that. If you have made or seen a thread that you feel should be cross-posted on the Community Council, link it here with a small explanation as to …

[Nasrajin-sargeras]

Thanks, I really appreciate that!

[Selintio-kelthuzad]

why? dont be nice lets get some ideas i hardly play druid i know their class tree is an absolute mess but ummm idk why youre struggling to be nice.

[Selintio-kelthuzad]

More Evidence of Blatant Botting in Rated Solo Shuffle

Hey all, I am making this post to draw much needed attention to how widespread and rampant the botting problem in rated solo shuffle (and pvp generally) is For context, I had just watched Supatease’s video https://youtu.be/_C6pXMGIlBo exposing a Demon Hunter bot before my solo shuffle popped this morning. In his video, he demonstrated a litmus test of sorts that would result in the bot running directly into the wall on Black Rook Hold arena. Serendipitously, my shuffle popped and took me to Bl…

[Selintio-tichondrius]

;D think i care what u think of me? i dont lol

[Ueshiba-stonemaul]

I’m sensing a disturbance in the force… we’ll see PvP changes soon, probably more of the same, just more sub-par class tuning with maybe a slight tweak to mmr, PvP needs more than that but hopefully we can keep the pressure on and get some of this other stuff fixed.

[Rigarootaro-balnazzar]

@Ueshiba-stonemaul

I’m sensing a disturbance in the force… we’ll see PvP changes soon, probably more of the same, just more sub-par class tuning with maybe a slight tweak to mmr

I sure hope so, but this prediction is 10 days old now, lookin a little stale if ya ask me. They don’t want to fix PvP, they probably don’t even know it’s driving on 3 wheels.

[Ueshiba-stonemaul]

Soon is in the eye of the beholder, surely we’ll see some changes “soon”. If they wanted to fix it, it would be relatively easy.

[Tsukiyomi-exodar]

They need to add unique rewards for each rating bracket to keep them all relevant and make people want to participate.
Add a recolored glad mount for getting 2400 in 2’s, RBG’s, and solo shuffle.
Adding rated solo q BG’s is a big issue because it will literally destroy regular RBG’s just like solo shuffle did regular arenas except some people still try for 3’s because that’s the only way you can get the glad mount.
PvP needs more rewards and more attention to class balance, putting in new maps regularly especially for RBG’s.

[Ueshiba-stonemaul]

Totally agree, rewards are much easier to obtain through PVE content but not only that, as I detailed in my post there are good incentives for PvP, transmogs, titles, mounts, toys the works BUT it’s obvious the incentives we have aren’t enough to incentivize players to play through this level of neglect to the game mode, otherwise logic would dictate we would have more participation.

[Vermax-bloodscalp]

@Ueshiba-stonemaul

rewards are much easier to obtain through PVE content but not only that, as I detailed in my post there are good incentives for PvP, transmogs, titles, mounts, toys the works BUT it’s obvious the incentives we have aren’t enough to incentivize players to play through this level of neglect to the game mode, otherwise logic would dictate we would have more participation.

Logic checks out, Cumberland farms has decent prices for coffee and good pizza but it isn’t enough to incentivize me to go every week. Free coffee Friday on the other hand incentives me enough to go. Incentives are there for WoW PvP but with this much neglect to the game modes you need some real incentive to show up. Unless you’re just tired and need a coffee (metaphorically speaking) the coffee is the good enough to show up. For some of us we’ll go every day, for others it’ll take a free one on Friday, if ya catch my meaning.

[Ueshiba-stonemaul]

Pretty solid analogy, it stacks up well to the lack of incentives issue, sure we have incentives but not enough to bring people in.

[Vermax-bloodscalp]

Thanks, I had just had coffee and it reminded of Cumberlands… if they treated the Honor Level System More like Renown that’d probably help.

[Ueshiba-stonemaul]

Something has got to happen soon. We’re either getting some fixes or nothing at all you can be sure of that!

[Rigarootaro-balnazzar]

Well Blitz counts towards the Great Vault now, kinda feels like watching a bug twitch after it’s been crushed though.