PvP is a net negative to WoW's PvE

There’s no way the OP, who has Honor Level 1, less than 1k posts and 60 achievement points doesn’t know that.

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non sacced observer was bad anyways cause it was ranged and therefore less consistent at spell locking and purging

Nah, they just thought it was an eyesore and wanted felhunters to look like felhunters.

there is PvP balance / tunning once every 2 months, I think you should probably find something else to blame

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It’s kind of sad people think this. PvP is 100% beholden to PvE. PvP is broken time and time again because PvE always comes first. PvP is constantly adapting to what PvE throws at it. The introduction of M+ and the massive amount of moving in PvE has really changed PvP.

Before this game was even launched, they promoted the world PvP between the factions. It was a huge selling point. PvP servers were some of the most popular on launch. While there is some distinction between all the different flavors of PvP, it’s still an integral part of the game experience.

As far as class fantasy, PvP isn’t doing ANYTHING to how class fantasy is built. This makes no sense. Again, PvP is dealt whatever hand that PvE gives it… then adapts.

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So popular that nearly everyone became lopsided.

Sadly enough WoW isn’t the only game that have been screwed over the by the shared pve/pvp system. Most other mmo’s especially those copying wow has it too…

Wasn’t even that long ago FFXIV gave up and straight up gave all classes a completely distinct pvp setup.

Just sounds like you have a misunderstanding of PvP and its affect on the game.

I have done both and PvP has always taken a back seat to the needs of PvE. Everything you’re bringing up is anecdotal and mostly unfounded. But hey, guess I can’t expect much of level 10 alts.

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Oh i’ve been around for a while.
And it’s always the same song and dance. Something is fun in pve but broken in pvp… Gutted.
Every… Damn… Time.

Yet they added a ton of new models including to the Felhunter. So uhh… idk about that one.

But you’re wrong. PvP doesn’t drive this game. They aren’t designing PvE around a small segment of the game. More than anything, M+ has been the prevailing driver of changes. M+ has driven the mobility, the CC, utility, defensives, healing, etc. and that has all led to homogenization.

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I lovevpvp. I’m a little more competitive than I should be.

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If I had a nickel for every time I wasted an external on an observer because I mistook it for a shaman…

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This is why we need pvp power back. I want to unexcusably mop the floor with pvers in open world after reading this post. We legit get shafted every time and this dudes mad his beholder is going away for one of the other 19 demons

Um, no, people did use the Observer. They used it because the Felstalker is ugly and stupid-looking, and the new model somehow got stupider-looking.

lol I mean, they really have no excuse when the game’s main faction for our exploration of dragonland is a faction that’s LITERALLY MADE UP OF THE TWO ARCHAEOLOGY FACTIONS JOINED TOGETHER AND THERE ARE LITERALY MISSIONS THAT REVOLVE AROUND THE IDEA OF NPCS AND QUESTGIVERS GOING OUT INTO A NEW LAND DOING ARCHAEOLOGY THINGS. GOD I’M SO ANGRY AT HOW LAZY THESE PEOPLE ARE!! FIX YOUR GAME BLIZZ AND LET YOUR WORKERS UNIONIZE #savetheobserver

Or succubus for CC. I cna have charm up their with some of the more annoying CC’s.

Even more annoying than Sap. If sapped I know that rogue is stuck watching me wear it off too. We both can look at me sapped since I am saving trinket for the CC they can attack on and not break it.

Um. … The observer wasn’t ranged. It functioned exactly the same way the felstalker did.

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I’ve been here awhile too, since beta in fact. What else was gutted because of pvp?

(And not because of blatant Blizzard incompetence then blamed on pvp)

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Maybe they are bitter about gargoyle for DK.

Now that was/is a trip on my wrath dk. Something new, interesting and fun.

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oh, coulda swore it was ranged mb